What's the point of opening your own pay site?

[Pagan]

groan.. what a schedule! You can still perform tired??? My respect for you has deepened tremendously Papa. I promise I won't complain about my 80 weeks anymore.. ever. (40 hours a week on a day job, 10 hours commuting, 30 hours a week on my sites).

[papagmp]

Originally Posted by Pagan

groan.. what a schedule! You can still perform tired??? My respect for you has deepened tremendously Papa. I promise I won't complain about my 80 weeks anymore.. ever. (40 hours a week on a day job, 10 hours commuting, 30 hours a week on my sites).

Hey - I'm not complaining - but it's a LOT of work.

Just got back from the club - now back to building FS's

[tigermom]

There are various ways of making money from paysites. You mentioned high PPS payments to affiliates. With many of these sites, the subscription money is, or should be, only part of the site owner's income. Even with sites built to never rebill, the program makes more money from x-sales along with some shady tricks (described in a thread here not too long ago). It is not simple and it's easy to lose money if you don't know exactly what you're doing. They need to average more per sale, so they can pay X amount of money to the referring affiliate.

If you're not one of the sharks who knows how to properly manage a PPS model, you're bound to lose a lot of money.

Then there's the more traditional concept where you make a quality site, meant to rebill, and make your money from the rebills. Those programs usually operate on the revshare model, so affiliates are making money from the rebills as well. Papa here operates that kind of site, by that model. However, you most certainly don't have to produce content in order to run a paysite. You can get exclusive or non-exclusive content, or both, without ever touching a camera or seeing a model.

If you're just looking for ways to get laid, there are services for that, and they're cheaper than producing porn Ask Papa here how much he paid for legal services alone, before he set up his business... and no, it's not the only thing you pay for - there are TONS of expenses, especially if you want to produce the content yourself.

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

I like working my own hours, taking off whenever I want (and I vacation/goof off a lot), and I make a good income as an affiliate with little overhead/responsibilities. That's what I like. I sometimes put in a full day but usually a few hours is enough for me.

Granted some people make lots of money starting their own sites/programs but I'm guessing most of them don't do so well and we never hear about most of them.

Same here. I just don't want the obligation of having to manage a paysite. And I definitely don't want to have to deal with content production. It's great for some people, but not for me.