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Old 2008-08-23, 05:19 AM   #1
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Thats all bullshit
I bet 99,9% people that are not in the biz dont't even know what whois is, or how to check it. And even if they knew how the hell would they check trizilions of adult biz domains? I've never heard of anyone getting fired, victimized or whatever
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Old 2008-08-23, 11:18 AM   #2
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Thats all bullshit
I bet 99,9% people that are not in the biz dont't even know what whois is, or how to check it. And even if they knew how the hell would they check trizilions of adult biz domains? I've never heard of anyone getting fired, victimized or whatever
Unfortunately, there are a couple of people that have been victims of real whois info. For example a guy named Bruce. He runs a site about erotic travel. A couple of years back he visited Thailand and he took photos of bars and massage parlors in Phuket to publish them on his website. As a result he got blacklisted from entering Thailand.

There has been a war raging between several competing porn producers and webmasters in Asia over the past years with several of them being jailed and fined for running websites.

Or look at this Filipino webmaster who got arrested for running a porn board http://pinoyambisyoso.com/blogs/boyb...bastos-nga-ba/ He got busted because he did not have a private whois.

Basically, every competitor or "good" friend may set you up if they want to get you into trouble or have you fired, divorced or whatsoever. Sometimes it is just enough to spread the word about your domains to ruin one's reputation inside a conservative community.

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Old 2008-08-23, 11:34 AM   #3
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He got busted because he did not have a private whois.
That's not true at all. He was arrested because he was running a site that local authorities deemed as:
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by far the filthiest Internet site we’ve come across that offers open and unlimited access to some of the most obscene videos and photographs of Filipino women and girls.
If someone chooses to prostitute themselves, open an adult video store, or run a porn site in a location where it is clearly illegal, it's no one's fault but their own. Whether or not we agree those laws HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Also there is nothing analogous about running a porn business and fighting for freedom in Tibet and Myanmar as you asserted earlier. It's an insult to those people to compare their struggles with that of some poor bastard who wants to use private WHOIS.
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Or look at this Filipino webmaster who got arrested for running a porn board http://pinoyambisyoso.com/blogs/boyb...bastos-nga-ba/ He got busted because he did not have a private whois.
Ohhh please...
"Sen. Loren Legarda said “the website boybastos.com provides Internet users, including minors, free and unrestricted access to the largest online accumulation of “extremely” hardcore pornographic materials of Filipino women and girls."

And you think its wrong he got arrested??
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Old 2008-08-23, 12:08 PM   #5
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Ohhh please...
"Sen. Loren Legarda said “the website boybastos.com provides Internet users, including minors, free and unrestricted access to the largest online accumulation of “extremely” hardcore pornographic materials of Filipino women and girls."

And you think its wrong he got arrested??
Most adult sites are available to minors. There is no working age verification system in place. If you run adult sites, I am sure your's can be accessed by minors, too! So what makes our sites different to his? I have no way of telling minors not to look at my sites and I am sure you don't have a way of blocking minors from watching porn on your sites.

The forum had a registration form in place, where users had to confirm to be of legal age.
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I want to bring up very important point. The purpose of private WHOIS is NOT to protect the identity of someone running an illegal site.

Even if that Filipino webmaster had used private WHOIS, authorities would have still been able get his real information from his host or by contacting his domain registrar.
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Old 2008-08-23, 12:25 PM   #7
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I want to bring up very important point. The purpose of private WHOIS is NOT to protect the identity of someone running an illegal site.

Even if that Filipino webmaster had used private WHOIS, authorities would have still been able get his real information from his host or by contacting his domain registrar.
I don't think the guy did anything illegal in the jurisdiction of his host or registrar. He ran a forum, where people would post images and stories. Probably, a large part of the images were stolen off of other sites as on many other porn boards, but that was certainly not the point of the senator. It was a politically motivated action.

But I agree, of course it should not be used for anything illegal. I do know that private registrars do hand out info in case of fraud, copyright and trademark issues and when they see a danger of being involved in legal claims.
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I don't think the guy did anything illegal in the jurisdiction of his host or registrar. He ran a forum, where people would post images and stories. Probably, a large part of the images were stolen off of other sites as on many other porn boards, but that was certainly not the point of the senator. It was a politically motivated action.

But I agree, of course it should not be used for anything illegal. I do know that private registrars do hand out info in case of fraud, copyright and trademark issues and when they see a danger of being involved in legal claims.
If he was a owner or moderator , he didn't do he's work
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