What free sites do you guys want?

[Pagan]

Mr. Useless, could you enlighten some of us with an example or two of the types of sites you are speaking of, both brilliant and lame? Quality is always in the eye of the beholder, but even us blind folks can be taught a little. bDok, same question, as it really does give us ideas. Thanks, guys!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Pagan

Mr. Useless, could you enlighten some of us with an example or two of the types of sites you are speaking of, both brilliant and lame? Quality is always in the eye of the beholder, but even us blind folks can be taught a little.

I'm Mr. Useless now, huh?

Justbondage hit the nail on the head. The chances of me posting links to what I consider to be the best free sites are pretty much the same as someone who writes really good sales text will post in this thread. Also, just because I look at them and think they're great, doesn't mean that they are producing tons of sales.

Let's face it - one of the suckier parts of this business is that your work is out there for all of your competition to see. If you come up with something that is brilliant, any fool can come along and copy it. I think one of the keys to doing well is to not share everything on boards. Whether there is a correlation or not, I do not know, but I will tell you that the people I consider to be the best submitters are all members here and they hardly ever post. So, anyway, I share their work with surfers - not webmasters.

[Pagan]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I'm Mr. Useless now, huh?

Justbondage hit the nail on the head. The chances of me posting links to what I consider to be the best free sites are pretty much the same as someone who writes really good sales text will post in this thread. Also, just because I look at them and think they're great, doesn't mean that they are producing tons of sales.

Let's face it - one of the suckier parts of this business is that your work is out there for all of your competition to see. If you come up with something that is brilliant, any fool can come along and copy it. I think one of the keys to doing well is to not share everything on boards. Whether there is a correlation or not, I do not know, but I will tell you that the people I consider to be the best submitters are all members here and they hardly ever post. So, anyway, I share their work with surfers - not webmasters.

Hey, can't a lady show some respect around here? Or do I have to go find that discarded tennis racket?

My clean sites don't bring the kind of sales I want yet, even though I am working my fingers off to be listed. Building trust and traffic is part of it, yes, and the sales will come as I get better known. The fact that my accepts far out number my rejects is a positive sign. I also noticed my traffic for month to date is now ahead of all of July, so I am on the right track.

Obviously, you guys need sites in certain niches, and don't need sites in others. You also don't need just any sites, you want quality, as a wise man said. Just trying to help build what y'all need here.

Still... I won't tell anyone if I get a pm with a couple of URLs. You don't have to tell me what is good and what isn't.. I should know, right? RIGHT! ah.. I hear a hairy bush calling me....

[elKabong]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

The chances of me posting links to what I consider to be the best free sites are pretty much the same as someone who writes really good sales text will post in this thread.

Hmmm, although I get your point, I don't necessarily agree with your statement.

I'd like to think that I write great sales text, but I agree that I wouldn't spoon feed someone, rather, I'd point them in the right direction and give them the opportunity to figure it out for themselves.

If everybody were to just lurk and never share any ideas, what's the point of this community?

[justbondage]

Originally Posted by elGordo

If everybody were to just lurk and never share any ideas, what's the point of this community?

I think his point is that there is a difference between sharing ideas and posting a statement like "this is the best design for a free site - LINK".

It would be like, there is no sharing there, just an ask and receive system.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by elGordo

Hmmm, although I get your point, I don't necessarily agree with your statement.

I'd like to think that I write great sales text, but I agree that I wouldn't spoon feed someone, rather, I'd point them in the right direction and give them the opportunity to figure it out for themselves.

I officially have no idea what you are not agreeing with.

Originally Posted by elGordo

If everybody were to just lurk and never share any ideas, what's the point of this community?

Ah. You know what your problem is? You aren't jaded yet.

Here's the thing. I used to enjoy helping newbies and I'll still occasionally pop into a newbie thread to redirect it if I see someone is getting shit advice or an important fact is being left out. Do you know why I bother to do that? Because it'll make me look smart and experienced to some poor schmuck who doesn't know the truth; the reality that I'm nothing more than an angry little man who can't make things work, will never truly succeed in this business. So I make myself feel better by unleashing criticism and a torrent of explicatives on idiots who couldn't possibly put up a good defense in a battle of words against a guy like me - a wannabe English professor who'd rather wallow in self-pity and self-hatred than build the motivation to go back to school.

[elKabong]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I officially have no idea what you are not agreeing with..

I'm agreeing with myself of course, somebody has to... or maybe I'm not agreeing with myself, or maybe... I don't know anymore, I'm so confused... |shocking|

lol

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Here's the thing. I used to enjoy helping newbies and I'll still occasionally pop into a newbie thread to redirect it if I see someone is getting shit advice or an important fact is being left out. Do you know why I bother to do that? Because it'll make me look smart and experienced to some poor schmuck who doesn't know the truth; the reality that I'm nothing more than an angry little man who can't make things work, will never truly succeed in this business. So I make myself feel better by unleashing criticism and a torrent of explicatives on idiots who couldn't possibly put up a good defense in a battle of words against a guy like me - a wannabe English professor who'd rather wallow in self-pity and self-hatred than build the motivation to go back to school.

I knew it...

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

The chances of me posting links to what I consider to be the best free sites are pretty much the same as someone who writes really good sales text will post in this thread.

Bite me.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Simon

Bite me.

Consider yourself bitten.