Would these sites be accepted?

[Fonz]

They look pretty clean to me. But a few things:

- You're only allowed to use 3 outgoing links per page. On your index pages you're using 6-7.
- Some of your pics are rather small (600 on the long side) LL owners prefer pics a little bigger.
- Also try to avoid mixing movies and pictures, while some LL owners won't mind this others will.
- 4 galleries for a freesite is too much for me personally (it makes reviewing last longer and I'm a lazy bastard )
- try to avoid using banners that contain images that could be seen as clickable thumbs but take you directly to the paysite.
- and don't use subdomains for your freesites

Other than that they look pretty ok to me.

[gaydemon]

Really? Interesting..

So:

• I had a mistake in my templates. It should be 4 links in total per index page (except the landing page which would have more due to reciprocal links).
  
  Out of those 4 links, 2 would be the eaxct same (sponsor) link. So is it only really possible to have 3 links that goes to another domain?
  
  But does that also mean I can only have 3 reciprocal links on the landing page? How can you then trade with more than 3 sites?
  
  
• The picture sizes are as big as they come, thats what we as affiliates are provided with by sponsors. So very little choice. Believe me, I've tried to push sponsor to provide better pictures for blogs and sites.
  
  
• 3-4 galleries on gay free sits are pretty much a standard. It can be less but most use 4 galleries.
  
  
• subdomains, why? Subdomains are there to organize or split up a domain if it contains more than 1 site. which this domain does, the main pornisation.com is another site and works differently where as sites.pornisation.com is dedicated to hosting free sites. Sounds like a odd rule to me..
  

It sounds like the straight side of link lists have a lot more to choose from, if I use any of those rules on gaydemon (which is one of the largest gay link lists still existing) I would not have any sites left to list.

Gay free and AVS sites are in 90% of cases really bad, no one creates good sites anymore. At least not that I get to see. So it does surprise me a bit that straight link lists are able to keep such strict rules.

I do wish gay sites where better.. but unfortunatley they are not.

Anyway thanks for those points. Not sure then how I can get accepted its things that are hard to follow.

Originally Posted by Fonz

They look pretty clean to me. But a few things:

- You're only allowed to use 3 outgoing links per page. On your index pages you're using 6-7.
- Some of your pics are rather small (600 on the long side) LL owners prefer pics a little bigger.
- Also try to avoid mixing movies and pictures, while some LL owners won't mind this others will.
- 4 galleries for a freesite is too much for me personally (it makes reviewing last longer and I'm a lazy bastard )
- try to avoid using banners that contain images that could be seen as clickable thumbs but take you directly to the paysite.
- and don't use subdomains for your freesites

Other than that they look pretty ok to me.

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by gaydemon

I had a mistake in my templates. It should be 4 links in total per index page (except the landing page which would have more due to reciprocal links).

Out of those 4 links, 2 would be the eaxct same (sponsor) link. So is it only really possible to have 3 links that goes to another domain?

But does that also mean I can only have 3 reciprocal links on the landing page? How can you then trade with more than 3 sites?

3 outgoing links per page means that you can put up 3 links maximum that point to sites outside your freesite, recip links aren't included in those 3 links. You can have 15-20 recips on your index page (I don't know where you make the deifference between index and landing page, they're both the same to me).

Originally Posted by gaydemon

The picture sizes are as big as they come, thats what we as affiliates are provided with by sponsors. So very little choice. Believe me, I've tried to push sponsor to provide better pictures for blogs and sites.

Bigger LL's such al Link-o-Rama require that you have pics with at least 1200 px on both sides combined (length + height). So if you want to egt listed there I suggest you try to find bigger pics.

Originally Posted by gaydemon

3-4 galleries on gay free sits are pretty much a standard. It can be less but most use 4 galleries.

Yeah I heard something about that, never understood why.

Originally Posted by gaydemon

subdomains, why? Subdomains are there to organize or split up a domain if it contains more than 1 site. which this domain does, the main pornisation.com is another site and works differently where as sites.pornisation.com is dedicated to hosting free sites. Sounds like a odd rule to me..

That's an old rule from when sites on subdomains where synonym to freehosting accounts. Mysite.Freehost.com etc. So the user didn't have control over his hosting. I know this is not the case for you but it's a standard rule for so if you want to get listed on the "straight" sites it's best you fiollow it.

[gaydemon]

Thanks for the explenation. Much appriciated.

About those outgoing links. Does 1 banner and 1 text link, both linked to the same URL count as 1 link or 2 links?

Originally Posted by Fonz

3 outgoing links per page means that you can put up 3 links maximum that point to sites outside your freesite, recip links aren't included in those 3 links. You can have 15-20 recips on your index page (I don't know where you make the deifference between index and landing page, they're both the same to me.

I guess straight link lists have such a lot bigger choice from what submissions to accept that you can have these strict rules. I wish we could have the same in the gay side of it. Its pretty awful what we got being created now days, very few good old site builders left.

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by gaydemon

About those outgoing links. Does 1 banner and 1 text link, both linked to the same URL count as 1 link or 2 links?

1 if the text is right below the banner

[gaydemon]

Ah ok,

I presume then that if you have 1 text link on the top of the page, then some "stuff" then a banner at the bottom the two links counts as 2 even if they are linked to the same site.

Interesting, in gay terms the sites I've created are seen as very bare not enough links and banners..

You got any an example of a perfect / very good straight free site?

Originally Posted by Fonz

1 if the text is right below the banner

[Licker4U]

Fairly good straight free site: Here Got a sale yesterday

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by Fonz

That's an old rule from when sites on subdomains where synonym to freehosting accounts. Mysite.Freehost.com etc. So the user didn't have control over his hosting. I know this is not the case for you but it's a standard rule for so if you want to get listed on the "straight" sites it's best you fiollow it.

I think this old rule requires review. We all know how to make a difference between freehosts and domains owned by a submitter. Subdomains are very powerful tools with proper use.

[1freepornfinder]

I like the look of the sites and don't care about the subdomains...

[gaydemon]

Thanks

Its good information though, I actually find it easier to design a site if there are straight guidelines to follow, then at least there is something to aim for.

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content. On these examples I have used the content as its provided by the sponsors. IE there isnt anything better quality wise from those sponsors.

I should also mention that the sponsors are carefuly selected based on how they have performed over a year on gaydemon.com. So its high converting sites (revshare) which obviously people like since rebills are high on them.

[elKabong]

Originally Posted by gaydemon

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content.

That problem is simple to solve: buy content.

There are plenty of content providers that sell excellent quality pic sets for $20 or less. Here's a good place to start looking: GG&J Resources

[Mateusz]

Originally Posted by gaydemon

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content. On these examples I have used the content as its provided by the sponsors. IE there isnt anything better quality wise from those sponsors.

Free content shouldn't be a problem if you dont push just few paysites all the time and/or sponsorts that are oversaturated.
But... from what I'm seeing you are about to submit gay free sites only, and that could be a problem even if you were using bought content. You should spread your submits over few categories