Rob Black and Lizzy Borden get 1 year and a day in prison

[Cleo]

I've never seen their stuff but from what I read it depicted acts of non consensual violence like rape in a non fictitious manner. If that is true then I guess it would fall under the same limits of free speech like not being able to yell I've got a bomb on an airplane.

[domweb]

Originally Posted by Cleo

acts of non consensual violence like rape in a non fictitious manner.

I never saw anything on their videos (a little hardcore for even someone as bent as me to appreciate), but I was led to believe that everything was consensual pre-taping.

There were no surprises in the script to the actors, but they acted like it. What was going to happen was discussed and lengthy legal releases were signed before shooting began. So legally (says the non-lawyer) the entire thing was fiction, even if it was presented differently.

No one prosecutes the soap opera actor for acting like a rapist on camera. Just don't do that in porn, or you go to jail.

Maybe I am wrong. I am not that familiar with their material.

[burntfilm]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I've never seen their stuff but from what I read it depicted acts of non consensual violence like rape in a non fictitious manner. If that is true then I guess it would fall under the same limits of free speech like not being able to yell I've got a bomb on an airplane.

I don't know the social damage that stuff Rob makes causes.
(yelling fire in a theater can kill people)
More to domweb's point,
I did see the movie Hostel, and it depicted non consensual violence like the murder and mutilation of imprisoned people in a non fictitious manner. Very realistic with the screaming and the cutting of flesh and the burning out of women's eyeballs with a welding torch. I get your point.

Obscenity charges are different though, they vary from community to community, and are subject to the interpretation of local judges, some of whom would probably like to charge the makers of Hostel as well.

Either way, that's nasty stuff all around, not in my wheelhouse, someone else's battle. I just hate to see the ugly head of censorship poking it's head out of it's cave.

[Bill]

I was under the impression the moral of this story was don't send thru the mail.

They weren't jailed for making it, just for mailing it.

I ain't a lawyer, and ain't sure I'm right, but that's the impression I've gotten.

If anybody finds any biz analysis of the implications, I'd love to see it.

This article says "Mr. Zicari and Ms. Romano were indicted in August 2003 for selling videos and clips online and through the mail."

But trusting a straight world newspaper to tell the truth about porn is like trusting a hurting addict with your wallet - the media can't stop itself from milking anything to do with sex.