The End Of Illegal Tubes Starts HERE

[Pagan]

*IF* the only content that was available to the illegal tubes was poor quality, short clips I might agree. Most ISPs won't be caught, and frankly could care less. Big guys like Roadrunner don't blink even when presented with documentation that they are hosting illegal sites using blatantly pirated software. It wasn't, "Prove it", it was "So what? We don't have the manpower to check on this stuff, even with a complaint".

I think sponsors also have to consider what it does when their content is splattered all over the web (and no, I am not speaking of the limited free content we affiliates are permitted to use for promotion). If surfers get it all for free, why bother buying? Make the tube clips low quality and short and give the affiliates a bit better quality and longer so that we can show the freeloaders WHY they should subscribe. How dismal is the conversion rate from a tube site versus bandwidth and investment?

Not all ISPs are in countries that care about copyright or 2257. In some respects, targeting the ISP just drives the illegal operators offshore and onto hosts where anything goes, including underage crap. Is this really the best way?

[faxxaff]

It's much easier to go after people if you hold a trademark, but without you have much less leverage. LV sued eBay and won 300 Million US$ in compensation for pirated goods being offered on eBay auctions.

[tickler]

xxxjay it does look promising that the pieces are starting to fall into place to kneecap the tubes

Originally Posted by Pagan

Most ISPs won't be caught, and frankly could care less. Big guys like Roadrunner don't blink even when presented with documentation that they are hosting illegal sites using blatantly pirated software. It wasn't, "Prove it", it was "So what? We don't have the manpower to check on this stuff, even with a complaint".

Well I guess that adding some manpower to do it will become a cost of doing business because the alternative fines/jail cost a lot more.

And as faxxaff mentioned trademarks are easier to push internationally. In these cases LV is a French company going after American companies in the USA.

Originally Posted by Pagan

Not all ISPs are in countries that care about copyright or 2257. In some respects, targeting the ISP just drives the illegal operators offshore and onto hosts where anything goes, including underage crap. Is this really the best way?

They may find themselves in even bigger shit in some of those countries also.

Just look at the copyright suit in South Korea against 10,000 heavy uploaders who could face millions in fines(or worse) each.
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/afp/20090...20090813063524
The case may or may not work as far as copyrights, but at the same time 10k uploaders have been identified to the cops in a country where porn is illegal.