Another "Age Verification" act ===> BS

[miz_wright]

I saw something on one of the other boards about this the other day, and was really surprised how many seemed to think this is such a Fab!Idea!

And, guys? I love me some porn, but I'm still new enough to this business that I can tell you - any time I hit a site that asks for my credit card? Huh uh.

Know why? 'Cos five years ago I got hit with them there cross sells. No way, no day. I'll go to the creepy dirty store first.

[whitey]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

I saw something on one of the other boards about this the other day, and was really surprised how many seemed to think this is such a Fab!Idea!

And, guys? I love me some porn, but I'm still new enough to this business that I can tell you - any time I hit a site that asks for my credit card? Huh uh.

Know why? 'Cos five years ago I got hit with them there cross sells. No way, no day. I'll go to the creepy dirty store first.

Hmmmm....

And most of us are in the business of selling porn memberships in one way shape or form, yeah, by convincing someone to pull out their credit card.

This is a porn business forum, correct?

Sorry for being snarky, but these kinds of posts always get me riled up.

Discussions of sponsors that cross-sell, the impact of cross-selling on the industry are constructive. Comments like this are pure, unadultered rubbish.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by whitey

Hmmmm....

And most of us are in the business of selling porn memberships in one way shape or form, yeah, by convincing someone to pull out their credit card.

This is a porn business forum, correct?

Sorry for being snarky, but these kinds of posts always get me riled up.

Discussions of sponsors that cross-sell, the impact of cross-selling on the industry are constructive. Comments like this are pure, unadultered rubbish.

As a woman in this business, I'm sorry you feel that way. My job depends on folks pulling out their cards, just like yours does. However, I ALSO am a consumer of our product - and frankly, I've been burned more than once by having my card jacked by cross-sold BS - and if I've been burned by it, working with this business, and I'm mistrustful of having it done again, how do you think the average consumer feels?

Several of my clients are here, and we've all been hurt by damage to the consumer market - in all aspects.

Think what you will, but by and large, if it's not someone I work with, I have a hard time ponying up my hard-earned cash to purchase, and so do most of our consumers. It's worth thinking about.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by whitey

Comments like this are pure, unadultered rubbish.

I don't understand what it is about Liz's comments that you are objecting to. You've effectively said nothing, other than "I disagree," but in a sort of asshole-ish manner.

[Mike-mijen]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't understand what it is about Liz's comments that you are objecting to. You've effectively said nothing, other than "I disagree," but in a sort of asshole-ish manner.

I concur

[whitey]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't understand what it is about Liz's comments that you are objecting to. You've effectively said nothing, other than "I disagree," but in a sort of asshole-ish manner.

First off, her comments were akin to a person in the car business, selling cars that never drove them because they were unsafe. I was not disagreeing with "her" so much as comment on her comments.

I have been in quite a few businesses and have little tolerance for people who sell things they either do not believe in or are afraid of themselves.

As far as being "ass-holish", I did apologize for being snarky. I, furthermore, directed my comments at her comments and not her personally. If that is "ass-holish" so be it.

If you think it reflects a professional approach to be in a business that you would never purchase due to fear of being ripped off, then you are entitled to your opinion. I personally do not think it reflects either professionalism or commitment. If I was snarky, it is because many bad experiences both with business partners and employees that had the same approach and felt it was something to be rationalized, and I reiterate my advance aknowledgement to Liz and anyone else for coming off as snarky.

If the issue is one of cross-sales and their impact on our busines, it is both a problem and opportunity from a business standpoint. And, I am all up for those discussions - althought the horse has been repeatedly beaten to death and devolves into bitch fests rather than the business opportunity the present - namely establishing trust with your surfers so that they do not fear a repetition of the same event with the site that you are selling.