NETVERIFIER November 10 Payday

JustRobert · 2015-11-13, 11:24 AM

webguy,
I have been dwindling down my members the past year, not really promoting and only slightly updating 1 site because I had a feeling about this. At this moment I am turning all tour pages into a cross selling page. Members area are still up but those will be pulled as soon as tour pages are finished. I would suggest you do the same or start your own program. Since you have a good percentage of member emails you can contact them once your program is in place.

This is no defense for Rich and his BS but the stats issue started up just after Zombaio billing company had issue and I know that for sure ( a board member use to work there) told me that was the billing company. So initially there might have been a true issue but a year later, I doubt it.

It truly is a shame because I liked NV, member retention was fantastic.

ecchi · 2015-11-13, 12:49 PM

A thought has crossed my mind. I don't know much about NV, but two things I do know are:

When things go wrong people will hang on forever hoping something will go right. I used to sell sites with hosting packages. I had plenty of people who bought a site, signed up to pay the hosting each month via PayPal, then did bugger all, expecting Google to make them rich. They ended up with less than ten hits a month, some got no traffic at all - ever, but they continued to pay the hosting every month. Over ten years later I still have clients paying for hosting on sites that they have never made a single cent out of. I am still making money out of them because they either cannot live with admitting failure or cannot be arsed to cancel the small monthly payment they pay via PayPal.

I also know (from bitter experience) that when things go wrong with your billing agent it is soul destroying. It makes you want to give up the business, stop working and go and live the rest of your life in a cave.

Perhaps the NV guy got that way when they had billing problems and decided to retire. Knowing how people behave (as mentioned in my first point), perhaps he decided he could finance his retirement simply by giving up NV but not telling anyone. Those that eventually got the message and closed down would have closed down anyway if he had announced his closure, so he looses nothing. But even if you post on every board that he is a crook, many webmasters will still hang on (look how many idiots still use GoDaddy even though hardly a month goes by without someone posting somewhere about their dishonest practises), so he will always have enough sites for a few members to pay each month. And if he stops paying the webmasters, that should be more than enough to live on!

Because, seriously, is anyone going to actually bother suing him?

2015-11-13, 11:24 AM	#1
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,691	webguy, I have been dwindling down my members the past year, not really promoting and only slightly updating 1 site because I had a feeling about this. At this moment I am turning all tour pages into a cross selling page. Members area are still up but those will be pulled as soon as tour pages are finished. I would suggest you do the same or start your own program. Since you have a good percentage of member emails you can contact them once your program is in place. This is no defense for Rich and his BS but the stats issue started up just after Zombaio billing company had issue and I know that for sure ( a board member use to work there) told me that was the billing company. So initially there might have been a true issue but a year later, I doubt it. It truly is a shame because I liked NV, member retention was fantastic. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Erotic To Naughty Network!

2015-11-13, 12:49 PM	#2
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	A thought has crossed my mind. I don't know much about NV, but two things I do know are: When things go wrong people will hang on forever hoping something will go right. I used to sell sites with hosting packages. I had plenty of people who bought a site, signed up to pay the hosting each month via PayPal, then did bugger all, expecting Google to make them rich. They ended up with less than ten hits a month, some got no traffic at all - ever, but they continued to pay the hosting every month. Over ten years later I still have clients paying for hosting on sites that they have never made a single cent out of. I am still making money out of them because they either cannot live with admitting failure or cannot be arsed to cancel the small monthly payment they pay via PayPal. I also know (from bitter experience) that when things go wrong with your billing agent it is soul destroying. It makes you want to give up the business, stop working and go and live the rest of your life in a cave. Perhaps the NV guy got that way when they had billing problems and decided to retire. Knowing how people behave (as mentioned in my first point), perhaps he decided he could finance his retirement simply by giving up NV but not telling anyone. Those that eventually got the message and closed down would have closed down anyway if he had announced his closure, so he looses nothing. But even if you post on every board that he is a crook, many webmasters will still hang on (look how many idiots still use GoDaddy even though hardly a month goes by without someone posting somewhere about their dishonest practises), so he will always have enough sites for a few members to pay each month. And if he stops paying the webmasters, that should be more than enough to live on! Because, seriously, is anyone going to actually bother suing him? Last edited by ecchi; 2015-11-13 at 12:51 PM..