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Old 2004-10-01, 02:52 PM   #1
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New LL script

I am wondering when they are EVER going to update linkadmin (though I still love the script) - this look like a great alternative:

http://www.xpowerlinks.com/features.html
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Old 2004-10-01, 03:00 PM   #2
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Old 2004-10-01, 03:28 PM   #3
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I'm running X Power on the link list in my sig, and I fuckin' love it. There's an update due in the next couple weeks, and the support has been top notch. They even throw in an install for those not too PHP savvy (like me). The programmers actually take requests for new features and LISTEN.

accelman posts here, and he's the guy who handles sales and support.
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Old 2004-10-02, 07:33 AM   #4
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Finally someone agrees that linkadmin is far from being worth its money.

I know GG had mods done by rich... the problem is that nobody else but GG has any gain from that...

Since rich told me he has no affection of working on LA in the next time....
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Old 2004-10-02, 10:59 AM   #5
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How configurable is the look for x-power, the two sites that I know that are running it, doesnt have the look/feel that I want?
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Old 2004-10-02, 11:09 AM   #6
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I was going to go with x-power but then I was told that it could not generate includes. Since everything that I do except my promo pieces are done pulling in includes from my databases I couldn't use it.

I did go with Links SQL and am absolutely loving it but it wasn't cheap. $450 for the script and then another $225 on plugins.

It was pure hell to setup as I used it in a different way then it was written for but that is the beauty of it as it can be customized to do almost anything.

It is well supported and I got lots of help on their board, especially by Andy who wrote the plugins that I bought.
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Old 2004-10-02, 12:05 PM   #7
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Cleo, I got a different message from support, and I'll be trying to integrate some advertising via php includes over the next week. In fact, I'm working on integrating PhpAdsNew, which I think you use if I'm remembering a recent thread correctly. I'll let you know how it works out.

Klove, as for configurablility, It's pretty much "sky's the limit" depending on how much work you want to do. The cms is based on a system of nested templates that generate quite quickly. It takes some time to get familiar with what goes where and how everything works, but once you get your head around it the possibilities are pretty much limitless. There are lots of options for controlling link display, and I believe there will be more added with the coming update. I'm sure their sales guy would be happy to give you a list of more sites running it so you can see some more possibilites...I think there are at least 50 live sites running it right now.

I know I sound like a freakin' sales guy for the script...but since there's no affiliate program I'm just a happy customer. |rasta|

You can go to www.xpowerlinks.com and request a demo password, which will give you access to a demo copy you can wander around in and get familiar with. I recommend doing that with ANY script anyway.

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Old 2004-10-02, 02:42 PM   #8
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Well, I've just deployed my MAIN PAGE with links inserted from PhpAdsNew, and everything is working just fine |rasta|

I used the 'remote invocation for frames' option, which inserts an i frame on the page then fills it with a banner. Also has the nifty option of rotating the banners every x seconds (which I'm not using yet). This will be somewhat cumbersome to deploy for all 100 of my cats, but in the long run it will be completely sexy since PhpAdsNew tracks clicks/impressions etc.
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Old 2004-10-03, 12:20 PM   #9
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Yeah I have to agree that link admin could use an update
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Old 2004-10-03, 01:33 PM   #10
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I wasn't trying to have includes put into x-power. I was trying to have x-power generate includes to be used in my existing pages.

This is what I was told by x-power link's developer.
"script uses pseudo-static pages on mod_rewrite"
"so he don't write anything in any file"

Without it writing anything to the drive there is no way to have it generate include files to be pulled into my existing pages.

By using Links SQL I was able to get all my existing, read spidered and in link trades, exactly the same without anything anyplace getting renamed. I also pull in my includes on other domains into other lists so it becomes a database for all of my site lists.
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Old 2004-10-03, 02:07 PM   #11
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Cleo: well, it is really can't generate any includes. It uses pseudo-static HTML (HTML files which are does not exists in real) like penisbot.com - so they can't be included physically
Instead of generating includes, you can build your existing design into templates. Also in new version there will be very flexible mechanism of context category includes for category trades.

2All: possibly we have temporary problems with support - all people of our team were invited into work with new version.
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Old 2004-10-03, 02:12 PM   #12
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I wasn't trying to have includes put into x-power. I was trying to have x-power generate includes to be used in my existing pages.

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Old 2004-10-04, 02:35 AM   #13
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Do psuedo-static HTML pages have less impact for SEO? Or do the spiders see them as static?
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Do psuedo-static HTML pages have less impact for SEO? Or do the spiders see them as static?
Short answer is yes... but describe "pseudo-static"

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Old 2004-10-04, 08:20 AM   #15
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Short answer is yes... but describe "pseudo-static"

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All site pages have .html addresses (or .htm or whatever you want). The submit.html page (for example) doesn't actually exist. When the server gets a request for the page it is generated from the script and displayed. "Pseudo-static" is basically a dynamically generated page called by a "static" URL. The spiders ask for a .html page and they get one, since there's no php code left when the page displays.
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Old 2004-10-04, 08:24 AM   #16
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What kind of load does that put on the server having to generate a page for every surfer request?
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Well, bear in mind that my site is currently only getting a couple thousand uniques per day and it's server from a pretty bad-ass dual P4 server. Server load as available from CPanel rarely gets higher than 30%, and Alexa (for what it's worth) rates me as faster than 51% of other sites. When I was deploying the site and looking for reviews/critiques, I was consistently told it was a fast loading site by people on dialup. I'm on DSL so my opinion of speed is skewed.
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Old 2004-10-04, 11:22 AM   #18
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Some explanations.

Pseudo-Static.
If you want to see what is pseudo-static pages - goto www.penisbot.com - the most of .htm, .html pages are pseudo-static. There is no matter they are static or pseudo-static - they are EXIST from outside look. And only host owner knows whether they are exist or not.

Server loading.
Technicial info. Well, database was designed by people who know what they do. Database normilized and queries are extreamly fast due to right indexes. During one page request there are up to 7 DB queries executed (some LL scripts have up to 30 queries per page).
Common info. Taking in mind some performance tests - xpowerlinks can handle up to 50k/day page requests without any problems (P4 2.5 GHz, 1Gb RAM, SCSI with xpowerlinks installed + about 60 another domains installed include CJs - total average CPU loading was about 30%).
But... if you have much more traffic and/or CPU or RAM loading is high - there can be proxy cache solution, when mod_proxy caches the results of PHP scripts. In this case the most CPU resources will be free.
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