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Old 2005-07-03, 10:15 AM   #1
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Who says the guys that drive the "tanks, planes, missiles, lasers, robotic crawlers, and all the other high tech power" will be on the government's side. And yes...I hate to say it but the people fighting the US in Iraq seem to be doing a good job with less fire power than we would have.
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Old 2005-07-03, 01:25 PM   #2
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There is a very cool site where a man tests various loads against "real stuff" to see what happens:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/contents.htm
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Old 2005-07-04, 09:33 AM   #3
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How about this - you can now buy an MP3 player for your Kalashnikov - http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/kalashnikov/Ak-mp3.asp

on a serious note - Switzerland is awash with guns, and I mean awash - that's why the government can't make any changes to the Swiss constitution without a referendum - and gun crime is virtually non existent here.
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Old 2005-07-05, 08:28 AM   #4
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on a serious note - Switzerland is awash with guns, and I mean awash - that's why the government can't make any changes to the Swiss constitution without a referendum - and gun crime is virtually non existent here.
Well, there's a reason why it's non-existent in Switzerland...everyone is too busy shooting holes in the cheese.
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Old 2005-07-05, 01:43 PM   #5
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Well, there's a reason why it's non-existent in Switzerland...everyone is too busy shooting holes in the cheese.
hehehe!! no.. everybody is too busy with referendums
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Old 2005-07-05, 05:37 AM   #6
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I guess gun owners should be responsible owners so they don't hurt innocent people, right?
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Old 2005-07-05, 11:35 AM   #7
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I guess gun owners should be responsible owners so they don't hurt innocent people, right?
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvacci.html

http://www.tsra.com/LottPage.htm

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html

The other side:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issues/?page=lott

The truth is somewhere in the middle- I'm guessing.

But, that doesn't matter.

It is what you believe.

I'd be in favor of mandatory safety classes- but many people get all upset about that.

Nobody can protect stupid people from themselves.
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Old 2005-07-05, 01:49 PM   #8
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Nobody can protect stupid people from themselves.

Very true - you can not account for stupidity - many folk are just as dangerous and deadly behind the wheel of a car.
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Old 2005-07-05, 09:32 PM   #9
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Bowling for Columbine made me reflect on several things. Good documentary!
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Old 2005-07-06, 11:10 PM   #10
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talk about responsiblity and accountability. Gun owners must have those two traits.
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