.XXX revived with threats and violence

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 11:03 AM

Anybody be checking out this crazy shit?

Seems like Xbiz and Alec Helmy are the latest recruits to try and jam the .XXX top level domain down the industry's throat.

Apparently there was some debate where Helmy was asked if he supported it or not followed by his moderators posting pictures of themselves with guns and talking smack about "cracking heads for fun".

I guess gigacash isnt doing so well anymore.

It sure has got Mike South pretty pissed off.
You can see the pics in question and read his recap at mikesouth.com if your interested.

Ill be crossing anything Xbiz off my list.

Jim · 2007-01-31, 11:38 AM

Gonzo, I wrote xbiz off when Helmy saw everything we had on sponsorchat and let them remain on the xbizaward nomination list.

The whole xxx thing would be horrible for this business. And like Mike South, I had high hopes for xbiz when they started doing shows. I thought if anyone could knock avn off their high horse, it would have been xbiz. They seemed to have a handle on the webmaster community. But, who doesn't know about Sponsorchat? I saw posted elsewhere "all real webmasters know that sponsorchat is a scam".

Those pictures of the xbiz employees with guns is just the cherry on top for me.

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Gonzo, I wrote xbiz off when Helmy saw everything we had on sponsorchat and let them remain on the xbizaward nomination list.

The whole xxx thing would be horrible for this business. And like Mike South, I had high hopes for xbiz when they started doing shows. I thought if anyone could knock avn off their high horse, it would have been xbiz. They seemed to have a handle on the webmaster community. But, who doesn't know about Sponsorchat? I saw posted elsewhere "all real webmasters know that sponsorchat is a scam".

Those pictures of the xbiz employees with guns is just the cherry on top for me.

I read the thread over there a little while ago. And the post Mike made is not out of context. Initially I thought the pay off comment was sarcastic.

It does seem more likely now.

One thing is for sure - they are slapping and grinning with each other as if they know a mighty big secret.

I guess that they dont realize that Mike is from the South and brandishing guns in pictures would be seen as a pure keyboard warrior move.

I guess when you know your in the wrong and ashamed of it ... the only choice is to resort to threats.

Classless.

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 12:26 PM

Oh for fuck sakes

Let me see if I can get Alec in here to comment before I say things I might regret

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Oh for fuck sakes

Let me see if I can get Alec in here to comment before I say things I might regret

Only if hes going to publically going to say if he is for or against .xxx.

And I dont mean one of the gun flashing tough guys either.

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 12:52 PM

I've emailed him, so hopefully he comes by & posts.

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

I've emailed him, so hopefully he comes by & posts.

I have a picture with a .44 Mag Smith and Wesson pose incase the chumps show up.

Jim · 2007-01-31, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo

I have a picture with a .44 Mag Smith and Wesson pose incase the chumps show up.

I've had my eye on a Gold Desert Eagle 50AE for a couple of years now. My wife was going to buy one for me for Christmas this year until she found out if she bought it, it would be in her name. Lately, I have been looking at the Smith & Wesson 500

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 01:09 PM

You people that live in red county's & own guns scare me.

mr.sexbankroll · 2007-01-31, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Gonzo, I wrote xbiz off when Helmy saw everything we had on sponsorchat and let them remain on the xbizaward nomination list.

Sorry, a little off topic.. but what's the deal with Sponsorchat?

R

emmanuelle · 2007-01-31, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.sexbankroll

Sorry, a little off topic.. but what's the deal with Sponsorchat?

R

yeah- my head must have been buried under a different rock than I thought. Is there a relevant thread?

Toby · 2007-01-31, 01:30 PM

Sponsorchat/XBIZ Awards thread:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=36782

mr.sexbankroll · 2007-01-31, 01:41 PM

hey, thanks for that

R

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

...Let me see if I can get Alec in here to comment before I say things I might regret

Alec asked me to post his comments from this thread:
http://boards.xbiz.com/showthread.ph...threadid=36942

hey Mike South...Alec Helmy here...
RE: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=701086

As far as me somehow facilitating .XXX to get approved - heh, as if I have that kinda power - thanks, I'm flattered.

Believe it or not, no one within the adult industry has the power to get .XXX approved.

What XBIZ has done is facilitate an open dialogue with a TLD that may get approved and has the power to impact our industry.

We can either turn a blind eye or instead try to learn about its plans, ask questions and do whatever we can to influence its direction for the best interest of the industry - I along with many others prefer the latter, as is evident in the number of folks attending the event.

Alec

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 02:27 PM

NIce spin for the show.

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 06:21 PM

Alec also told me that he posted this over on GFY:

I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns
already discussed on the boards.

Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction
- and not for financial gains.

emmanuelle · 2007-01-31, 06:25 PM

This board has shown Xbiz a great deal of support in the past. Are we not worth his time to make a personal visit to c&p his response?

Greenguy · 2007-01-31, 06:33 PM

Well, he is at least emailing me

I have to assume he's been putting out fires all day.

GonZo · 2007-01-31, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Well, he is at least emailing me

I have to assume he's been putting out fires all day.

Its rough work having thugs take down threatening pics and sending out DCMA notices to cover your employees stupidity.

Jim · 2007-02-01, 06:37 AM

What exactly was the reason for the guns?

GonZo · 2007-02-01, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

What exactly was the reason for the guns?

Beats me I guess when you are losing an argument you try to take control back with a show of force.

GonZo · 2007-02-03, 10:41 PM

Im hearing now that Alec Helmy's debutante ball for .xxx was cancelled at the last minute.

Can anybody else confirm this?

2007-01-31, 11:03 AM	#1
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	.XXX revived with threats and violence Anybody be checking out this crazy shit? Seems like Xbiz and Alec Helmy are the latest recruits to try and jam the .XXX top level domain down the industry's throat. Apparently there was some debate where Helmy was asked if he supported it or not followed by his moderators posting pictures of themselves with guns and talking smack about "cracking heads for fun". I guess gigacash isnt doing so well anymore. It sure has got Mike South pretty pissed off. You can see the pics in question and read his recap at mikesouth.com if your interested. Ill be crossing anything Xbiz off my list.

2007-01-31, 12:26 PM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,780	Oh for fuck sakes Let me see if I can get Alec in here to comment before I say things I might regret __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2007-01-31, 12:52 PM	#6
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,780	I've emailed him, so hopefully he comes by & posts. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2007-01-31, 01:09 PM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,780	You people that live in red county's & own guns scare me. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2007-01-31, 01:30 PM	#12
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	Sponsorchat/XBIZ Awards thread: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=36782 __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2007-01-31, 11:38 AM	#2
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Gonzo, I wrote xbiz off when Helmy saw everything we had on sponsorchat and let them remain on the xbizaward nomination list. The whole xxx thing would be horrible for this business. And like Mike South, I had high hopes for xbiz when they started doing shows. I thought if anyone could knock avn off their high horse, it would have been xbiz. They seemed to have a handle on the webmaster community. But, who doesn't know about Sponsorchat? I saw posted elsewhere "all real webmasters know that sponsorchat is a scam". Those pictures of the xbiz employees with guns is just the cherry on top for me.

2007-01-31, 01:41 PM	#13
mr.sexbankroll They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 147	hey, thanks for that R __________________ richard@sexbankroll.com

2007-01-31, 02:27 PM	#15
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	NIce spin for the show.

2007-01-31, 06:21 PM	#16
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,780	Alec also told me that he posted this over on GFY: I do not support .XXX because of the various concerns and unknowns already discussed on the boards. Should it get approved, it'll be best to try to influence its direction - and not for financial gains. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2007-01-31, 06:25 PM	#17
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	This board has shown Xbiz a great deal of support in the past. Are we not worth his time to make a personal visit to c&p his response?

2007-01-31, 06:33 PM	#18
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,780	Well, he is at least emailing me I have to assume he's been putting out fires all day. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2007-02-01, 06:37 AM	#20
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	What exactly was the reason for the guns?

2007-02-03, 10:41 PM	#22
GonZo You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 893	Im hearing now that Alec Helmy's debutante ball for .xxx was cancelled at the last minute. Can anybody else confirm this?