Wont accept ********?

BootyBandit · 2004-11-23, 02:29 PM

Hi guys,

I started to build some free sites promoting epic cash and when i went to submit certain link lists wouldnt accept it because i was promoting EC.

whats up with that?

Greenguy · 2004-11-23, 02:36 PM

Let's just say that the owner is not the most well liked person in the business.

BootyBandit · 2004-11-23, 02:57 PM

Gotcha GG. I guess ill build for another sponsor. What a waste of time.. lol

Tommy · 2004-11-23, 03:54 PM

BootyBandit

building for another sponsor would be a smart move

ClubPussy.com · 2004-11-24, 03:43 AM

I just check stats....... never seen any money from them....

is a $$$ matter GG Tommy?

Greenguy · 2004-11-24, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Let's just say that the owner is not the most well liked person in the business.

SmithsMedia · 2004-11-25, 09:54 AM

stuveltje · 2004-11-25, 03:15 PM

i know i have to stay out of this, i know but my noseyness (does that word excist?) is killing me, i always get paid by them? Although there are sponsors i dont get paid from and others do.i am missing something here.....have to find out..........just ignore me, unless you have some info for me

Greenguy · 2004-11-25, 07:31 PM

stuveltje - it has nothing to do with the program itself - hell, they paid me after all the unpleasantness - but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple.

If you want to do business with assholes, be my guest

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple.

If you want to do business with assholes, be my guest

ahummmm i dont believe i wanna do bizz with assholes, cant be good then hee

JenC · 2004-11-26, 03:12 PM

I've always thought this whole situation was a damn shame. The sponsor mentioned above has always been my best and they always pay EARLY, not to mention on time.

I build a lot of freesites and it bums me out that I can't use my best converting sponsor on them. It's not just GG's LL either. It's a couple others.

I have raised this question before and there seems to be no answer than to just use another sponsor. So, very very reluctantly I am doing that.

(P.S. Trey has never been an asshole to me. He's very well liked and respected in my book.....this may be an unpopular view around these parts but at least I have the nuts to say it)

Greenguy · 2004-11-26, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JenC
(P.S. Trey has never been an asshole to me. He's very well liked and respected in my book.....this may be an unpopular view around these parts but at least I have the nuts to say it)

Were you here when he shit on the board? On me personally?

I really wish the board didn't crash so everyone could read what went on with their own eyes.

I could really give 2 fucks if people like him or don't like him, but I refuse to support anyone that does with my traffic.

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JenC
I've always thought this whole situation was a damn shame. The sponsor mentioned above has always been my best and they always pay EARLY, not to mention on time.

I build a lot of freesites and it bums me out that I can't use my best converting sponsor on them. It's not just GG's LL either. It's a couple others.

I have raised this question before and there seems to be no answer than to just use another sponsor. So, very very reluctantly I am doing that.

(P.S. Trey has never been an asshole to me. He's very well liked and respected in my book.....this may be an unpopular view around these parts but at least I have the nuts to say it)

well that is also an issue with me, i had sponsors fucking me but my friends did good with them, i am happy for them and i wont say he thats a shit sponsor, oke i will say that because they where shit to me but i wouldnt say drop them or whatever, mmmmmm would i am bad because i use a sponsor which did something bad to others but still do good for me? i realy dont know what they did, but i geuss its the same as in the cheaters thread, you can post cheaters there, you can blacklist them if you want, even they didnt fuck you but only an other say he, he or she is a cheater, but it dont mean they have to fuck at all lls,.i again i dont know what happend, and i have respect for all even they said fuck them they are bad, i know they have their reasons.......

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Were you here when he shit on the board? On me personally?

I really wish the board didn't crash so everyone could read what went on with their own eyes.

I could really give 2 fucks if people like him or don't like him, but I refuse to support anyone that does with my traffic.

ah fuck i believe we posted the same time, no i didnt have seen that GG and thats i wanted to know the reason why ,well you just gave me a reason and a realy good one,... even i make money with them i am gonna change all nice ....(stu<-scratching her head and thingking fuck i need to change my ll and a tgp)) this way is not profesional and like i said before i know you have a reason, but i didnt know "the Reason" so i couldnt decide, now i know

DangerDave · 2004-11-26, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I really wish the board didn't crash so everyone could read what went on with their own eyes.

I Saw...
I Read...
I Banned..

|pissed|

DD

AbulletAway · 2004-11-26, 05:25 PM

I think any TGP owner has the right to do whatever they want with their TGP. But, it just goes to prove my theory that most TGP owners are basically shallow with delusions of godhood. It's one thing to make rules dictating, size of thumbs, number of thumbs and the content in the thumbs. But, when tgp owners start dictating what sponsors a webmaster can use I think its total bullshit. Because a TGP owner has a problem with a site owner it becomes everyone's problem? It's just childish. TGP owners need to pay more attention to accepting good looking galleries that they think their surfers will like and that's it. It's difficult enough in this business without having to keep in mind who has hurt whose feelings and all the bs politics.

I was using a sponsor a few months back that was converting well for me. But, then a friend of mine started having issues with that sponsor. I thought it was bullshit and they were just being cry babies over it, but I like them, so I stopped using that sponsor. Plus they were going to hire me to do some work for them and I didn't want risk loosing out on that work. Well it's about four months maybe five months later, they still haven't hired me to do the work and I lost my best converting sponsor over it. All because I tried to take sides, make a friend happy and so on. In the end, I fucked myself out of some good money. I won't do that again. So when I submit galleries now, and I come to the GG page and I see the excellent specials for paid spots I don't buy them, I will some day I'm sure but so far, I can't get myself to do it because I think why do I want to waste my money on someone who won't even let me use the sponsors I want?

Sure someday, I'll buy a spot one of these days but I'll buy a spot at a whole lot of other places first. Places that don't tell me who I can promote because they got their feelings hurt by a program owner and have decided that everyone must suffer because of it.

Again, I'm not claiming TGP owners don't have the right to say who they will list and why and I never will. You don't want to list someone for any reason, that's your right. It's also my right to think that reasoning may be childish and shallow and makes you no different then the program owner you despise so much.

I remember the whole deal; didn't it cross over on to a few boards? Didn't it end with an apology? Maybe I'm wrong and just remember it differently. But it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that your decision to not allow epic galleries has cost you money, it has cost epic money and it's cost a whole lot of webmasters money.

I like Trey, never had any problems with him. Sure he shouts his mouth off and sounds like an ass sometimes but so what. He pays on time, every time and there's a shit load of sponsors that I'm sure you list every day that don't. But I guess that's ok, as long as they never hurt your feelings.

I'll end this by saying that I have a ton of respect for you in this business. I read your newsletters, I browse the board and I look forward to meeting you someday. You seem like a great guy. But I think it's wrong that you've banned Epic. Mixing business with pleasure is rarely a good thing unless it involves lots of alcohol and boobies.

Just my two cents on it.

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 05:40 PM

although i have alot of sponsors(120+) i had only trouble with 7 , from 7 it worked out with 4, 3 fucked me, the one who learned me this bizz 3 years ago, said to me oke that sponsor fucked you, i will drop them i said why?? why the fuck drop a money income who fucked me and not you, it gives you money? he said your my friend i said oke, but the sponsor pays you and you dont have trouble with him, from that money you buy food and pay bills, why the fuck drop that because the sponsor fucked a friend, are you not in this bizz to make money??? You are in this bizz to make money..........i have respect for all people in bizz, but i think i would need a reason if i wanna drop a sponsor , now what GG mention (i didnt read it) is not a way a sponsor should work so yes i understand his point and on that point i would drop a sponsor, sponsors need to have respect for others too and if there is a problem it would not be disqus(ohe hell late here) in public, not professional( he i am glad i learned something in my time on the net)

GunnCat · 2004-11-26, 05:43 PM

Quote:

I think any TGP owner has the right to do whatever they want with their TGP. But, it just goes to prove my theory that most TGP owners are basically shallow with delusions of godhood. It's one thing to make rules dictating, size of thumbs, number of thumbs and the content in the thumbs. But, when tgp owners start dictating what sponsors a webmaster can use I think its total bullshit. Because a TGP owner has a problem with a site owner it becomes everyone's problem? It's just childish. TGP owners need to pay more attention to accepting good looking galleries that they think their surfers will like and that's it. It's difficult enough in this business without having to keep in mind who has hurt whose feelings and all the bs politics.

I was using a sponsor a few months back that was converting well for me. But, then a friend of mine started having issues with that sponsor. I thought it was bullshit and they were just being cry babies over it, but I like them, so I stopped using that sponsor. Plus they were going to hire me to do some work for them and I didn't want risk loosing out on that work. Well it's about four months maybe five months later, they still haven't hired me to do the work and I lost my best converting sponsor over it. etc......

That's kind of upsurd really. When I used to purchase for companies I decided who I would buy from based on many factors and one of them was how the company or person did or ran their business. A company had the greatest product in the world, but if I didn't agree with the way they did business they were out of luck.
If that's a god complex or being shallow, I don't think you have 1 iota of a clue as to what how the business world works.

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
I Saw...
I Read...
I Banned..

|pissed|

DD

Dangerdave, i would agree, now you and GG know eachother a long time, now think of the newbie webmasters and people who are not that long on the net, they dont know and dont understand..........just my opinion, bare me

Greenguy · 2004-11-26, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AbulletAway
I think any TGP owner has the right.....

WOW! I don't know where to start with the corrections!

1 - I run a Link List, not a TGP - there is a differance

2 - I have no "paid spots" let alone "excellent specials" - everyone gets their Free Sites listed the same way.

3 - Here's the apology I got:
http://www.justblowme.com/showthread...light=greenguy
Nice, huh?

4 - like I said before: "it has nothing to do with the program itself - hell, they paid me after all the unpleasantness - but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple."

Is there any other unpleasantness from my past that we can bring back up? Like the time I was a drunk newbie & told RB from Max Cash off?

GunnCat · 2004-11-26, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
WOW! I don't know where to start with the corrections!

1 - I run a Link List, not a TGP - there is a differance

2 - I have no "paid spots" let alone "excellent specials" - everyone gets their Free Sites listed the same way.

3 - Here's the apology I got:
http://www.justblowme.com/showthread...light=greenguy
Nice, huh?

4 - like I said before: "it has nothing to do with the program itself - hell, they paid me after all the unpleasantness - but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple."

Is there any other unpleasantness from my past that we can bring back up? Like the time I was a drunk newbie & told RB from Max Cash off?

Damn GG guy was flaming.
This business is such a soap opera sometimes. Makes me wonder how guys like him would make it if they had to work in the real world.

AbulletAway · 2004-11-26, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GunnCat
That's kind of upsurd really. When I used to purchase for companies I decided who I would buy from based on many factors and one of them was how the company or person did or ran their business. A company had the greatest product in the world, but if I didn't agree with the way they did business they were out of luck.
If that's a god complex or being shallow, I don't think you have 1 iota of a clue as to what how the business world works.

As I recall, it had nothing to do with how Epic did business. It was over personal issues. It's one thing to be able to read a post and respond to it. It's another to be able to be able to comprehend what you're reading. I suggest that maybe you work on your comprehension skills a bit before you respond again.

stuveltje · 2004-11-26, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
WOW! I don't know where to start with the corrections!

1 - I run a Link List, not a TGP - there is a differance

2 - I have no "paid spots" let alone "excellent specials" - everyone gets their Free Sites listed the same way.

3 - Here's the apology I got:
http://www.justblowme.com/showthread...light=greenguy
Nice, huh?

4 - like I said before: "it has nothing to do with the program itself - hell, they paid me after all the unpleasantness - but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple."

Is there any other unpleasantness from my past that we can bring back up? Like the time I was a drunk newbie & told RB from Max Cash off?

oke i am out of this thread
i know enough, i dont wanna piss people off, i just give my view..(me have to change some things)

JenC · 2004-11-26, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Were you here when he shit on the board? On me personally?

I really wish the board didn't crash so everyone could read what went on with their own eyes.

I could really give 2 fucks if people like him or don't like him, but I refuse to support anyone that does with my traffic.

Well again....what does that have to do with ME? LOL sorry to be so harsh, but it's the truth.

Actually in fact, I can somewhat understand speaking of your LL because I know you had a personal altercation with Trey. If I were in the same position, I would probably ban his program on my LL too. But when other LL owners start banning the program just because of something you personally had with Trey and they didn't.....one word: sheep.

And all us webmasters are made to suffer.

EDIT: It just really sucks, is all I'm saying. I'm losing money with my best converting sponsor because of some little childish spat. I don't know what went on, I really don't care to know what went on. But when it affects me personally, then I get concerned.

Anyhow they are your sites. You make the rules. I am now using other sponsors.....but it still sucks big time.

DangerDave · 2004-11-26, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stuveltje
Dangerdave, i would agree, now you and GG know eachother a long time, now think of the newbie webmasters and people who are not that long on the net, they dont know and dont understand..........just my opinion, bare me

Opinions are fine... we all have em....

But this thread is a waste of time...

We all ban various people and programs for various reasons... and it is rarely OPEN TO DISCUSSION!

Anyone that has a problem with EC being banned needs to learn to live with it and move on...

DD

2004-11-23, 02:29 PM	#1
BootyBandit Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	Wont accept ****? Hi guys, I started to build some free sites promoting epic cash and when i went to submit certain link lists wouldnt accept it because i was promoting EC. whats up with that?

2004-11-23, 02:36 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,809	Let's just say that the owner is not the most well liked person in the business. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-11-23, 03:54 PM	#4
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	BootyBandit building for another sponsor would be a smart move __________________ Accepting New partners

2004-11-24, 03:43 AM	#5
ClubPussy.com A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Deep South!!! Posts: 50	no wonder I just check stats....... never seen any money from them.... is a $$$ matter GG Tommy? __________________ ....

2004-11-25, 03:15 PM	#8
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	i know i have to stay out of this, i know but my noseyness (does that word excist?) is killing me, i always get paid by them? Although there are sponsors i dont get paid from and others do.i am missing something here.....have to find out..........just ignore me, unless you have some info for me __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2004-11-23, 02:57 PM	#3
BootyBandit Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	Gotcha GG. I guess ill build for another sponsor. What a waste of time.. lol

2004-11-25, 09:54 AM	#7
SmithsMedia The poster formally known as NOCHEXContact Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beverley, UK Posts: 1,019

2004-11-25, 07:31 PM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,809	stuveltje - it has nothing to do with the program itself - hell, they paid me after all the unpleasantness - but the owner is an asshole, plain & simple. If you want to do business with assholes, be my guest __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-11-26, 03:12 PM	#11
JenC Stupid risks make life worth living Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Eastern Seaboard Posts: 387	I've always thought this whole situation was a damn shame. The sponsor mentioned above has always been my best and they always pay EARLY, not to mention on time. I build a lot of freesites and it bums me out that I can't use my best converting sponsor on them. It's not just GG's LL either. It's a couple others. I have raised this question before and there seems to be no answer than to just use another sponsor. So, very very reluctantly I am doing that. (P.S. Trey has never been an asshole to me. He's very well liked and respected in my book.....this may be an unpopular view around these parts but at least I have the nuts to say it) __________________ THIS IS MY SIG - CLICK IT.

2004-11-26, 05:25 PM	#16
AbulletAway Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7	I think any TGP owner has the right to do whatever they want with their TGP. But, it just goes to prove my theory that most TGP owners are basically shallow with delusions of godhood. It's one thing to make rules dictating, size of thumbs, number of thumbs and the content in the thumbs. But, when tgp owners start dictating what sponsors a webmaster can use I think its total bullshit. Because a TGP owner has a problem with a site owner it becomes everyone's problem? It's just childish. TGP owners need to pay more attention to accepting good looking galleries that they think their surfers will like and that's it. It's difficult enough in this business without having to keep in mind who has hurt whose feelings and all the bs politics. I was using a sponsor a few months back that was converting well for me. But, then a friend of mine started having issues with that sponsor. I thought it was bullshit and they were just being cry babies over it, but I like them, so I stopped using that sponsor. Plus they were going to hire me to do some work for them and I didn't want risk loosing out on that work. Well it's about four months maybe five months later, they still haven't hired me to do the work and I lost my best converting sponsor over it. All because I tried to take sides, make a friend happy and so on. In the end, I fucked myself out of some good money. I won't do that again. So when I submit galleries now, and I come to the GG page and I see the excellent specials for paid spots I don't buy them, I will some day I'm sure but so far, I can't get myself to do it because I think why do I want to waste my money on someone who won't even let me use the sponsors I want? Sure someday, I'll buy a spot one of these days but I'll buy a spot at a whole lot of other places first. Places that don't tell me who I can promote because they got their feelings hurt by a program owner and have decided that everyone must suffer because of it. Again, I'm not claiming TGP owners don't have the right to say who they will list and why and I never will. You don't want to list someone for any reason, that's your right. It's also my right to think that reasoning may be childish and shallow and makes you no different then the program owner you despise so much. I remember the whole deal; didn't it cross over on to a few boards? Didn't it end with an apology? Maybe I'm wrong and just remember it differently. But it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that your decision to not allow epic galleries has cost you money, it has cost epic money and it's cost a whole lot of webmasters money. I like Trey, never had any problems with him. Sure he shouts his mouth off and sounds like an ass sometimes but so what. He pays on time, every time and there's a shit load of sponsors that I'm sure you list every day that don't. But I guess that's ok, as long as they never hurt your feelings. I'll end this by saying that I have a ton of respect for you in this business. I read your newsletters, I browse the board and I look forward to meeting you someday. You seem like a great guy. But I think it's wrong that you've banned Epic. Mixing business with pleasure is rarely a good thing unless it involves lots of alcohol and boobies. Just my two cents on it.

2004-11-26, 05:40 PM	#17
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	although i have alot of sponsors(120+) i had only trouble with 7 , from 7 it worked out with 4, 3 fucked me, the one who learned me this bizz 3 years ago, said to me oke that sponsor fucked you, i will drop them i said why?? why the fuck drop a money income who fucked me and not you, it gives you money? he said your my friend i said oke, but the sponsor pays you and you dont have trouble with him, from that money you buy food and pay bills, why the fuck drop that because the sponsor fucked a friend, are you not in this bizz to make money??? You are in this bizz to make money..........i have respect for all people in bizz, but i think i would need a reason if i wanna drop a sponsor , now what GG mention (i didnt read it) is not a way a sponsor should work so yes i understand his point and on that point i would drop a sponsor, sponsors need to have respect for others too and if there is a problem it would not be disqus(ohe hell late here) in public, not professional( he i am glad i learned something in my time on the net) __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit