Want to make a killing on sports?

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 01:17 PM

I'm not sure if anyone in here is betting or not, but everyone is looking for profits so...

I've been buying bets from http://www.atsbets.com about a year and I'm doing pretty good. I'm currently buying from 2 of the experts but looking to spread my risk further. Would anyone be interresting in sharing the costs of profitable bets?

Last 30 days from their 8 experts:
name - win - loss - hit% - profit

Jack Pappano 62 - 20 (75%) +50.6 units
Rodney Whitehurst 52 - 24 (68%) +26.1 units
Red Hansen 45 - 31 (59%) +14.9 units
Peter Schoenke 38 - 36 (51%) +9.6 units
JB Floyd 39 - 31 (55%) +7.9 units
Mike Harmon 40 - 36 (52%) +2.7 units
Jimmy Toliver 39 - 45 (46%) -5.2 units
Roger Pitzer 36 - 48 (42%) -16.2 units

Total: 351-271 (56%) +90.4 units

Aka if you for instance staked $100 per bet you would have profited $100 x 90.4 units = a profit of $9040 during that 30 day period...

Cost for all of them with a discount would be around $4500 a month total so would be cool with a small group to share the cost and profit with. Any takers?

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Useless · 2005-06-10, 01:19 PM

What?

Good bye.

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 01:21 PM

hm? whats up Useless Warrior? Just a friendly offer..

Kinky · 2005-06-10, 01:34 PM

always bet on black

i'm a recovering compulsive gambler (i plan on recovering all my money during football season)

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 01:38 PM

looking forward to football season myself .. they did 275-189 (59%) +61.7 units last year

.. (that's NOT counting the ncaaf)

Kinky · 2005-06-10, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

looking forward to football season myself .. they did 275-189 (59%) +61.7 units last year

.. (that's NOT counting the ncaaf)

the juice on the losses kills you though and the profit shrinks right up... i bet for fun, not to make money... hit a nice 5 team parlay and drink myself silly for three days

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 01:47 PM

kinky: not really.. +61.7 units was the profit included every loss.. they use standard lines so it's pretty easy to get better lines by shopping at the best books.. i bet for profit not fun.. (even though I do enjoy sports)

Fido · 2005-06-10, 01:48 PM

When I was 14 I was selling "guaranteed" method how to win in roulette. You won't believe how many stupids bought it.

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 01:51 PM

can't exacly compare sports to casinos Fido..

cd34 · 2005-06-10, 01:54 PM

so if $800 returns $9k in 30 days, and $9k would return $111k in 30 days, why do you need partners?

Seems to me I wouldn't want to be splitting that type of cash and involving a partner would just take a piece of my pie.

Fido · 2005-06-10, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

can't exacly compare sports to casinos Fido..

Well, the point is that the only one who made some money from that method was me ... and the casinos.

Kinky · 2005-06-10, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

kinky: not really.. +61.7 units was the profit included every loss.. they use standard lines so it's pretty easy to get better lines by shopping at the best books.. i bet for profit not fun.. (even though I do enjoy sports)

i bet thru the italian guy at the local pizza shop... i do pretty good betting by myself but one of my buddies really has a problem and when we get together we start playing ever single game on tv (we had 7 tvs set up in his living room last football season) and we end up losing our asses... i am looking forward to the degenerate gamblers late night hawaii games this season though

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 02:06 PM

hehe kinky

fido: I'm sure you made good money fooling people

cd34: where would you get the numbers from? I'm not looking to split any profits, I'm looking to split the cost. If I share the bets with 10 people that won't affect my profits, only my costs. I still think it's a bit much to be paying $4500 a month myself as you need good money management to survive bad periods, but guess I could do it alone...

Fido · 2005-06-10, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

fido: I'm sure you made good money fooling people

Man I was 14 and never been in casino, lol, I believed it that system too. And now when I am looking back I would say that these people fooled themselves. Jensen, tell me something. Do you really believe, that someone would have guaranteed method how to win (in casinos, lotteries, sports betting, ...) and that he will share it with the others?

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 02:24 PM

Fido: your illustrating that you don't really know what you're talking about here. You have to separate between the mathematical games of casinos and lotteries. They are designed to give the house a 1-2% edge and always give the owners the profit they need. I'm trying to sell someone a 100% guaranteed way to get rich. Read on if you want to learn something today.

Sports is not mathematical. The linemaker is not predicting which team will win (and by how much) when he posts a number. He is actually predicting which team the general public thinks will win, and by how much. Because sports betting is different from other forms of gambling, you can gain and keep an advantage. In sports betting, large bookmakers merely act as brokers; they have no vested interest in the outcome of the game. My 'opponent' is not the bookmaker but the player betting on the other side.

cd34 · 2005-06-10, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

Aka if you for instance staked $100 per bet you would have profited $100 x 90.4 units = a profit of $9040 during that 30 day period...

you list 8 events, $800 invested that returns $9040 in 30 days. Total cash in hand at the end of 8 events, $9840. (Initial $800 + $9040 profit) Imagine the return if you parlayed it.

Same performance the next 30 days, $9840 invested returns $111,192.

If I had the method for riches like that, you can damn well bet I'd be greedy and wouldn't share it. Well, not really, I probably would share it, fellow man, humanity and all that.

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 02:29 PM

cd34: no i'm not, read it again. I'm listing 8 punters and their record the past 30 days. Your numbers will just be wrong when you don't understand that. Total cost of buying from the 8 different persons is $4500. How much you bet per bet after that doesn't matter to me, and what I bet per bet doesn't matter to anyone else.

Fido · 2005-06-10, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jensen

I'm trying to sell someone a 100% guaranteed way to get rich.

Man I am sorry I did not take you seriously, now I am listening, come on, tell me more...

Jensen · 2005-06-10, 02:33 PM

Fido: how can I take you seriously when you're saying that betting on casinos and sports is the same?

2005-06-10, 01:17 PM	#1
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	Want to make a killing on sports? I'm not sure if anyone in here is betting or not, but everyone is looking for profits so... I've been buying bets from http://www.atsbets.com about a year and I'm doing pretty good. I'm currently buying from 2 of the experts but looking to spread my risk further. Would anyone be interresting in sharing the costs of profitable bets? Last 30 days from their 8 experts: name - win - loss - hit% - profit Jack Pappano 62 - 20 (75%) +50.6 units Rodney Whitehurst 52 - 24 (68%) +26.1 units Red Hansen 45 - 31 (59%) +14.9 units Peter Schoenke 38 - 36 (51%) +9.6 units JB Floyd 39 - 31 (55%) +7.9 units Mike Harmon 40 - 36 (52%) +2.7 units Jimmy Toliver 39 - 45 (46%) -5.2 units Roger Pitzer 36 - 48 (42%) -16.2 units Total: 351-271 (56%) +90.4 units Aka if you for instance staked $100 per bet you would have profited $100 x 90.4 units = a profit of $9040 during that 30 day period... Cost for all of them with a discount would be around $4500 a month total so would be cool with a small group to share the cost and profit with. Any takers? admin \| at \| unrealbank \| dot \| com __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 01:19 PM	#2
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2005-06-10, 01:21 PM	#3
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	hm? whats up Useless Warrior? Just a friendly offer.. __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 01:34 PM	#4
Kinky HEY NOW! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in the Matrix Glitching on an Endless Loop. Loop. Loop. Loop. Loo Posts: 1,218	always bet on black i'm a recovering compulsive gambler (i plan on recovering all my money during football season) __________________ don't mind me im nothing but nonsense <3

2005-06-10, 01:38 PM	#5
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	looking forward to football season myself .. they did 275-189 (59%) +61.7 units last year .. (that's NOT counting the ncaaf) __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 01:47 PM	#7
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	kinky: not really.. +61.7 units was the profit included every loss.. they use standard lines so it's pretty easy to get better lines by shopping at the best books.. i bet for profit not fun.. (even though I do enjoy sports) __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 01:48 PM	#8
Fido And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 229	When I was 14 I was selling "guaranteed" method how to win in roulette. You won't believe how many stupids bought it.

2005-06-10, 01:51 PM	#9
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	can't exacly compare sports to casinos Fido.. __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 01:54 PM	#10
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	so if $800 returns $9k in 30 days, and $9k would return $111k in 30 days, why do you need partners? Seems to me I wouldn't want to be splitting that type of cash and involving a partner would just take a piece of my pie. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-06-10, 02:06 PM	#13
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	hehe kinky fido: I'm sure you made good money fooling people cd34: where would you get the numbers from? I'm not looking to split any profits, I'm looking to split the cost. If I share the bets with 10 people that won't affect my profits, only my costs. I still think it's a bit much to be paying $4500 a month myself as you need good money management to survive bad periods, but guess I could do it alone... __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 02:24 PM	#15
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	Fido: your illustrating that you don't really know what you're talking about here. You have to separate between the mathematical games of casinos and lotteries. They are designed to give the house a 1-2% edge and always give the owners the profit they need. I'm trying to sell someone a 100% guaranteed way to get rich. Read on if you want to learn something today. Sports is not mathematical. The linemaker is not predicting which team will win (and by how much) when he posts a number. He is actually predicting which team the general public thinks will win, and by how much. Because sports betting is different from other forms of gambling, you can gain and keep an advantage. In sports betting, large bookmakers merely act as brokers; they have no vested interest in the outcome of the game. My 'opponent' is not the bookmaker but the player betting on the other side. __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 02:29 PM	#17
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	cd34: no i'm not, read it again. I'm listing 8 punters and their record the past 30 days. Your numbers will just be wrong when you don't understand that. Total cost of buying from the 8 different persons is $4500. How much you bet per bet after that doesn't matter to me, and what I bet per bet doesn't matter to anyone else. __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)

2005-06-10, 02:33 PM	#19
Jensen Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 106	Fido: how can I take you seriously when you're saying that betting on casinos and sports is the same? __________________ - UnrealBank.com - 28 niche sites - New paysite: Fistordie.com (anal fisting)