A Way To Better Understand Your CCBill Stats For Programs With 2+ Sites?

Greenguy · 2009-02-15, 07:41 AM

This idea might not be new, but after reading NYJester's posts in this thread something popped into my head.

We've all joined up to a CCBill program that had more than 1 paysite. As you know, all you can see are the total clicks & not clicks for the individual sites.

So lets say the program has 4 sites - you could sign up for the program 4 times, get a different CCBill # for each & then you'd know for sure how each site is converting/retaining.

Your thoughts?

NY Jester · 2009-02-15, 07:55 AM

Greenie, once I saw that the two programs were under one umbrella so to speak I thought it would be best to keep track of each individual program, for the very reason you stated - all we see is total clicks not the site. To expand more on what you're asking, the only thing I'd hate is those programs with more than 3 or 4 sites - if that were the case I'd suggest maybe signing up for a new 'ID' for each "niche" that the program may have or if its all the same then break it up to blocks of 4 sites. I'd be interested in what others had to say or their experiences already with this type of tracking.

HowlingWulf · 2009-02-15, 12:02 PM

I'm still hoping CCBill stats will upgrade into the 21st century.

Beaver Bob · 2009-02-15, 12:06 PM

Even if they added the ability to view by subaccount that would be very helpful

NY Jester · 2009-02-15, 03:03 PM

Yeah sub-account for each site would be very good add-on as well I agree BB

Beaver Bob · 2009-02-15, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester

Yeah sub-account for each site would be very good add-on as well I agree BB

It shows them on the sponsor side. So I don't imagine it would be terribly hard for CCBill to include this info for affiliates.

Greenguy · 2009-02-15, 06:37 PM

You silly guys assume that the people that own the program know how to set up sub accounts

You have no idea how many CCBill programs I've seen that had multiple sites/tours on the same sub account.

Toby · 2009-02-15, 07:00 PM

CCBill said ages ago that they were going add affiliate defined campaign codes, but as of yet haven't done so.

Word is that a major upgrade is still in the works, but no mention of a launch date.

Cleo · 2009-02-15, 07:27 PM

Can't you look at the destination url and see what the url of the join page is so that you know which site was joined?

NY Jester · 2009-02-15, 08:05 PM

To be honest I cant really find shit within the CCBill admin area

I just check clicks and conversions

Greenguy · 2009-02-16, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Can't you look at the destination url and see what the url of the join page is so that you know which site was joined?

The problem is that there's only 1 "clicks" total.

rooty · 2009-02-16, 08:44 AM

it is quite disappointing that ccbill doesn't break down clicks per sub-account.

Lets all hope for a upgrade

bluebrit · 2009-02-16, 10:07 AM

CCBill sucks for a lot of things beyond a breakdown to sub accounts.

Simply attempting to pull off a long term stats report is impossible beyond a certain point. If you happen to lose your past records but need to refer back to them, you can never get them again and I think this is an awful flaw.

Even basic sponsor programs allow you to go back to your initial sign up date, so why can't you do that with CCBill?

I would welcome any updates they put in place that make life easier for affiliates but I don't hold my breath on ever seeing them.

tickler · 2009-02-16, 11:53 PM

I was asking about some additinal tracking last summer and ccBill-Paul said the best way was to setup multiple accounts(not the best way in my opinion).

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ghlight=banner

A lot of ccBill sponsors that I would push harder if there was better tracking available.

Greenguy · 2009-02-17, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tickler

...A lot of ccBill sponsors that I would push harder if there was better tracking available.

I know there's some that I'd still be promoting if there was better tracking. 1 site could drag down the ratios & per click totals for an entire program, but pull those links & the other sites might be performing ok - but I'd never know.

nibbler · 2009-02-17, 12:01 PM

I'm sure this was talked about some time in the past, but how about the ability to purge those CCBill sponsors which you no longer promote. What a pain in the ass to look at this huge list with no longer promoted sponsors who will show up with that one "heart beat" click

Jensen · 2009-02-20, 08:54 AM

hmm anyone know if this will be included in the "coming" ccbill stats upgrade?

2009-02-15, 07:41 AM	#1
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2009-02-15, 07:55 AM	#2
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	Greenie, once I saw that the two programs were under one umbrella so to speak I thought it would be best to keep track of each individual program, for the very reason you stated - all we see is total clicks not the site. To expand more on what you're asking, the only thing I'd hate is those programs with more than 3 or 4 sites - if that were the case I'd suggest maybe signing up for a new 'ID' for each "niche" that the program may have or if its all the same then break it up to blocks of 4 sites. I'd be interested in what others had to say or their experiences already with this type of tracking. __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2009-02-15, 12:02 PM	#3
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2009-02-15, 12:06 PM	#4
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2009-02-15, 03:03 PM	#5
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2009-02-15, 06:37 PM	#7
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2009-02-15, 07:00 PM	#8
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	CCBill said ages ago that they were going add affiliate defined campaign codes, but as of yet haven't done so. Word is that a major upgrade is still in the works, but no mention of a launch date. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2009-02-15, 07:27 PM	#9
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2009-02-15, 08:05 PM	#10
NY Jester ICQ:147079406 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: RockMEHardplace Posts: 2,996	To be honest I cant really find shit within the CCBill admin area I just check clicks and conversions __________________ The Sexy Side of Porn

2009-02-16, 08:44 AM	#12
rooty A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 51	it is quite disappointing that ccbill doesn't break down clicks per sub-account. Lets all hope for a upgrade __________________ Nothing to see here really - My boring blog

2009-02-16, 10:07 AM	#13
bluebrit Along for the ride and loving it. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,873	CCBill sucks for a lot of things beyond a breakdown to sub accounts. Simply attempting to pull off a long term stats report is impossible beyond a certain point. If you happen to lose your past records but need to refer back to them, you can never get them again and I think this is an awful flaw. Even basic sponsor programs allow you to go back to your initial sign up date, so why can't you do that with CCBill? I would welcome any updates they put in place that make life easier for affiliates but I don't hold my breath on ever seeing them.

2009-02-16, 11:53 PM	#14
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	I was asking about some additinal tracking last summer and ccBill-Paul said the best way was to setup multiple accounts(not the best way in my opinion). http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ghlight=banner A lot of ccBill sponsors that I would push harder if there was better tracking available. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2009-02-17, 12:01 PM	#16
nibbler Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 122	I'm sure this was talked about some time in the past, but how about the ability to purge those CCBill sponsors which you no longer promote. What a pain in the ass to look at this huge list with no longer promoted sponsors who will show up with that one "heart beat" click

2009-02-20, 08:54 AM	#17
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