.xxx Approved by ICANN

[MindyBlingBucks]

Will this do more harm than good?

".XXX has been approved.
A few days ago, ICANN -- the quasi-government corporation that oversees the internet’s naming and numbering system, approved the .XXX top level domain. .XXX will operate much like .COM does now -- meaning it will be a domain name people can type into their browsers to take them to a website -- but similar to the way .GOV is reserved for governmental organizations, .XXX will be reserved for pornographic or adult content websites.

Current expectations are that .XXX will be available for purchase and use by year’s end."

What Go Daddy founder Bob Parsons has to say on the matter.

[Kinky]

what a surprise a domain registrar in support of a new TLD that rapes the pockets of adult webmasters


fuck 2257
fuck .xxx
and while we are at it fuck the FCC!!!!!!!!

[Rocco]

oh no - this is really bad

[Useless]

Some religious groups oppose .XXX.
As can be expected, certain religious groups oppose .XXX. One is a right-wing group called the Family Research Council. They released a statement immediately after ICANN approved the .XXX extension. Its statement read as follows:

"The new domain would do more harm than good," said Patrick Trueman, FRC's senior legal counsel and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section. "The .com domain has been a cash cow for the porn industry and pornographers will not give it up and remove themselves to the '.xxx' domain. Instead, they will populate the .xxx domain and perhaps double the number of porn sites available on the Web."

According to the web news service PressEsc the above group also blamed the Abu Ghraib prison scandal in Iraq on MTV. So it makes sense to take what they say with a huge grain of salt.

Survey Says! - who cares

[Lunatic]

So now if kids want to find porn sites quickly and easily they can just look for sites with .xxx domains.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

So now if kids want to find porn sites quickly and easily they can just look for sites with .xxx domains.

That's my thought. At least that wacky religous group realized the true implications.

[Kinky]

all .xxx is gonna do is fuck up the SERPs for those of us that are targeting "xxx" and the only reason that registrars and such are supporting it is becuase it will line thier pockets.... it opens up millions of domain names for them to make money on... how about we all decide just not to use it, keep business as usual, and it will be a big fucking flop and will go away... and if it is "imposed" on us it will be shot down so fucking quick in the courts that we will all get rug burn from being shot out of our comfy little office chairs (or in my case my king size bed)

[Lunatic]

It seems we could make it work to our advantage by snatching up the same domain names we have now in the .xxx domain.

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

It seems we could make it work to our advantage by snatching up the same domain names we have now in the .xxx domain.

why? you already have a perfectly fine domain name.... .xxx is a way to corral all the cattle into the pen.... then they start branding you with hot irons, cutting off your balls, and basically fucking you before they kill you

[tickler]

Originally Posted by kinky

how about we all decide just not to use it, keep business as usual, and it will be a big fucking flop and will go away...

Seems like the .kids is hardly used either!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

It seems we could make it work to our advantage by snatching up the same domain names we have now in the .xxx domain.

At $60 a pop - No thank you. At $12 I would have considered it, but would have still been unhappy that some fools who fail understand our business decided they should make some green adding another extension.

The best thing to do would be to boycott the new .xxx domain, but that could only happen if the link list and TGP owners agreed to blacklist that extenstion.

[Greenguy]

Can I ask a dumb question?

Can ICANN close down adult sites that do not use .xxx?

All they did was approve it for use - and I assume they approved other extensions that didn't exist before last week - but none of them are getting this kinda coverage - unless there a message board full of travel agents screaming about the .travel extension that I don't know about.

[eman]

XXX can only be bad. It's a blind alley. But it matters only if Google etc decree that it matters.

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by Lunatic

It seems we could make it work to our advantage by snatching up the same domain names we have now in the .xxx domain.

I guess what I meant was keep our existing domains but just get the same ones on the .xxx domain to maybe get some more traffic. But I tend to get confused about things sometimes.

[ecchi]

If xxx is just for adult, how does this affect domain squatting ? For example, if I had set up www.google.info before Google got to it, they could get it off me, but Google is not a porn site, so if I buy www.google.xxx what right do they have to claim it?

( And speaking of domain squatting how do I pre-order www.greenguyandjim.xxx ? )

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by ecchi

If xxx is just for adult, how does this affect domain squatting ? For example, if I had set up www.google.info before Google got to it, they could get it off me, but Google is not a porn site, so if I buy www.google.xxx what right do they have to claim it?

( And speaking of domain squatting how do I pre-order www.greenguyandjim.xxx ? )

there are some rather large players in the industry suporting .xxx as long as the .com owners get first dibs on thier according .xxx domains which is never gonna happen imo... there are sites offering pre-registry for .xxx but they offer no guarantee that you will get the domain you want and have non-refundable fees involved..... check out sex.com and scroll to the bottom of the page, they seem to have the inside track on some rather nice .xxx domains

[Linkster]

Who are these "large players" in the industry that are supporting the xxx thing - I have yet to see one person that I know to be heavily involved in this biz support it - for that matter the only people I have seen support it are the guy that had the brilliant idea to push it in the first place to make a killing for his own biz and a few registrars that jumped on board when they saw how much they could make.

[Smutferret]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Who are these "large players" in the industry that are supporting the xxx thing - I have yet to see one person that I know to be heavily involved in this biz support it - for that matter the only people I have seen support it are the guy that had the brilliant idea to push it in the first place to make a killing for his own biz and a few registrars that jumped on board when they saw how much they could make.

Hey Linkster,

I know CyberNet Entertainment has been a long time supporter of .xxx but they seem to be stepping back some now.

Here's a quote from their web site...

The .XXX Top Level Domain
CyberNet Entertainment believes in the responsible behaviour of adult website operators and in giving web surfers a fool-proof way to block material intended for consenting adult viewers only. We believe the establishement of the .xxx TLD is basically a good idea. However, news that the organizations pushing for its creation (IFORR and ICM) have purely financial or legislative stakes in the project has tempered our enthusiasm for the concept.

Regards,
SF

[Linkster]

Smutferret - thanks - guess Ive got a sponsor to remove

Seems that us responsible WMs need to do the things we have been all along like using the pics label etc. And if the parents and orgs that really are wanting a way to do this - the .kids tld has been put off so many times its ridiculous

http://www.icann.org/tlds/report/kids4.html - note the comments in the opposition to the application:
"Another concern was that voluntary separation of content on the web could eventually turn into forced separation and restrictions on free speech"

Hmmm - seems like they just approved one that does exactly the same thing

added - just a little history - the .kids tld was recommended to congress in 2001 - and still sits there

[terry]

I exchanged several emails with new.net about .xxx and it simply came down to them saying that there is nothing more they can do. They had originally told me they would refund my money if I recently purchased any xxx domains through them. Then they said that if ICANN approved .xxx as a TLD then there would be the ICANN version AND the new.net version. For those of you who are not familiar with new.net, you have to install a browser plugin in order to view their extensions such as .kids, .xxx, .family etc etc.

So two things could happen when a surfer types in sex.xxx for example. The first being he would see the domain registered through ICANN. The second being his ISP or browser has the new.net plugin so he will only see the new.net version of sex.xxx.

Should be very interesting to see if this really happens. I don't see new.net being allowed to offer .xxx anymore and that anyone with a .xxx with new.net has just lost money... but I could be wrong.

[rollergirl]

Originally Posted by Linkster

http://www.icann.org/tlds/report/kids4.html - note the comments in the opposition to the application:
"Another concern was that voluntary separation of content on the web could eventually turn into forced separation and restrictions on free speech"

Hmmm - seems like they just approved one that does exactly the same thing

added - just a little history - the .kids tld was recommended to congress in 2001 - and still sits there

Oh. I had no idea. That's an eye opener.

[koolkat]

Originally Posted by MindyBlingBucks

Will this do more harm than good?

".XXX has been approved.
A few days ago, ICANN -- the quasi-government corporation that oversees the internet’s naming and numbering system, approved the .XXX top level domain. .XXX will operate much like .COM does now -- meaning it will be a domain name people can type into their browsers to take them to a website -- but similar to the way .GOV is reserved for governmental organizations, .XXX will be reserved for pornographic or adult content websites.

Current expectations are that .XXX will be available for purchase and use by year’s end."

What Go Daddy founder Bob Parsons has to say on the matter.

I like the fact that Bob Parsons thinks that registrars are going to shoot themselves in the foot if they try and push $60+ fees for registration. Here is what he said:

Annual Cost of a .XXX domain name.
As of this writing, I do not know for sure what a .XXX domain name will cost. Early contacts we've made indicate that the price to registrars will be $60. Registrars will then mark it up from there, so it could very well cost the end user anywhere from $70 to well over $100, depending upon where it is registered. If that rumoured pricing turns out to be true, I personally think it's a dumb move by the registry, and that it will backfire in two ways. The first is that there will be far less adoption of .XXX (meaning many porn sites, especially budding ones, simply will purchase a .COM or .NET instead) and second, the registry will realize far less earnings that it otherwise would. I would hope the registry and ICANN both wake up here, and that the price to registrars is dropped to below $10.

I like that, and hope he will help break the norm, and GoDaddy will have $8.95 XXX domains!

[Leon]

well i dont know what the noise is about but if we will have also .xxx is it just better for all of us to grab some good and less good domains ? as long they wont touch our .com .net ... even let them release .sex .porn domains , but as far as i see it from SEO point of view google & yahoo just might give better ranking to .xxx domains to push them more and force more adult sites to transfer to .xxx

[Kinky]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Who are these "large players" in the industry that are supporting the xxx thing - I have yet to see one person that I know to be heavily involved in this biz support it - for that matter the only people I have seen support it are the guy that had the brilliant idea to push it in the first place to make a killing for his own biz and a few registrars that jumped on board when they saw how much they could make.

Lensman for one, he said he would support it if the .com owners got first dibs on the .xxx equivalent there was a big discussion about it on his board and some people seemed to agree with him

[Extreme John]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

unless there a message board full of travel agents screaming about the .travel extension that I don't know about.

This made me just about laugh myself off the couch. See your getting old GG your not up on the ENITRE web indsutry as you use to be, remember the time when you would of known exactly who was screaming where.

The .xxx thing in my opinion is something that will somehow take a spin on fucking with us in the future, if not than it's just another way for registrars to rip off another business type, in this case the "Oh so fat pockets of Adult webmasters"