Greenguysboard and Tubes

[pornsprite]

Since so many sites are becoming tube sites these days should greenguysboard have a tube category in this forum now?

We all have tube sites now and wouldn't it make greenguysboard one of the first boards to have a tube category for tube site owners to discuss topics that are relevant to their sites?

[Greenguy]

I personally HATE tubes & I know a lot of board members feel the same way.

Never gonna happen.

[Cleo]

The forum should just be labeled Provide Free Vids With No Hope Of Sales.

[pc]

Just look for buy & sell forum. Totally different animal that operates on different basis. Some of us know how to monetize them, some of us dont. As Cleo said and pointed out most of the webmasters are using free vids with no links to the appropriate sponsors, vids are too long, there is no sell and teaser approach and that is just simply stealing of content. There are ways of providing legal content, but if doesn't mean you can't make money that way. It just requires more work.
I did made possible posting hosted vids on one of my sites but it's possible only for partners and I'm really happy that not one of them used it since, even where there is a simple admin review step and a place for sponsor link.

2c

[Jeremy82]

I think that the tubes are the cancer of the BIZ. A TOP tubes with a plenty of stolen content pumping thousands of clicks to their ADs with the ratio no bigger than 1:10 000. Which logically affects other webmasters who are working in a legal way.

[Ramster]

I think most of us hate tubes, myself included. They hurt us all in different ways. Free porn sucks but their BIGGEST crime is the award google gave them, all of the traffic.

That said, if you don't have a tube or are working on a tube you're crazy. Just like Link Lists and TGPs, they are the new "in" thing and they seem to be here to stay.

[housekeeper]

Originally Posted by Ramster

if you don't have a tube or are working on a tube you're crazy. Just like Link Lists and TGPs, they are the new "in" thing and they seem to be here to stay.

I've got two tubes, a hosted one and one I run myself. Does well traffic wise, all my content is legal and above board, 2 min - 5min depending on sponsor. Hey, whataya gonna do, the only tubes that do well are the large [cough, illegal] ones that offer full length films. Everyone here knows that's the reality of porn these days, it's free and ain't nothing we can do about it.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I personally HATE tubes & I know a lot of board members feel the same way.

There is a line in the film Trainspotting where the Scottish lead character is talking about the English. I think the same quote could be used about tube sites. The line is this (with apologies to any Scots for the slight Americanisation of the quote), simply replace the word "English" with the phrase "tube site webmasters":

"I don't hate the English. The English are assholes. We were conquered by a bunch of assholes, what does that make us?"

[Licker4U]

Just ended another R&R from Afghanisfuckinstan and thought I would drop by the board and see what's going on.

Was talking with Nymph about tube sites and wondering how they are making money giving away so much free porn. Are they making it on live sex show sites? Dating sites? Sponsors? Tubes have to be making $$$'s somewhere, but where? Being in a Muslim country all porn is blocked so I haven't been able to keep my finger on the pulse of the porn industry but the big porn producers can't produce content without selling it to someone. Who is buying all that content that tubes are giving away?

[lezinterracial]

With as much bandwidth the big tubes use, They have to be making money off the ads. They get paid every time somebody clicks on a link or get a popup. Some are making PPV sites, cam sites, and dating sites.

Good thing is with DMCA and companies like takedown piracy, It is making it more difficult for people to find newer free movies. If people don't want to waste alot of time looking for a particular movie title or want a better quality video, Hopefully they will land on one of our sites.

[MeatPounder]

I compare the plethora of free porn such as tubes to be like watching sports.
For a casual fan there are a few free games on the networks and they can get their fix that way, but a true fan actually pays to see all the games on cable or satellite (love my direct TV)

[JAI-LING]

Originally Posted by ecchi

There is a line in the film Trainspotting where the Scottish lead character is talking about the English. I think the same quote could be used about tube sites. The line is this (with apologies to any Scots for the slight Americanisation of the quote), simply replace the word "English" with the phrase "tube site webmasters":

"I don't hate the English. The English are assholes. We were conquered by a bunch of assholes, what does that make us?"

QFT, Tubes can SUCK IT! Nice RIPPED Japanese CONTENT Tube in OP's siggie...

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

Was talking with Nymph about tube sites and wondering how they are making money giving away so much free porn. Are they making it on live sex show sites? Dating sites? Sponsors? Tubes have to be making $$$'s somewhere, but where? ... the big porn producers can't produce content without selling it to someone. Who is buying all that content that tubes are giving away?

The free surfers on the tubes of course. They are buying!

-when TGPs gave away 15 free photos, FOR FREE, of 100 photo set from a members area, people freaked out... we'll never sell memberships again

-then MGPs and movie posts came and what??? Give away 30 second actual video clips for free? Again people freaked out.

-Link Lists has links to 8000 free sites with free porn. People still bought!

Tubes are a bigger scale yes!! And some companies are probably ruined by their free content out there. But the people/programs that stay on top of it, use the tubes for promotion and cut 5-7 minute clips for promo, give away the odd full video and make up to date banners, ads and tours make sales.

Here's is some info for you on the big tubes. As an "affiliate" they send 100's of sales a day to paysistes/programs.... yes HUNDREDS a day! (it might actually be over 1000 to be honest, I just don't know the real numbers). Now throw in ad sales they make from the cams, penis pills, dating sites it adds up. And other paysites ...yes look around, paysite owners buy ads too all over the tubes and not just Brazzers other companies do too... because they make money.

Here is a quote from a guy on GFY:
"There is a mainstream ad network that ran the first penis pill ad on pornhub.com. One ad, in a rotation of other ads. My friend there, told me it did $25,000.00 a day in sales. It threw their office into a panic because there was going to be some very big affiliate payments needing to be made before they got compensated so they had to float a lot of cash. Thats one ad, one ad spot, in a rotation of ads, on a single page on a single site. Start extrapolating that across all ad positions, total ads in rotation, all pages and multiple sites that totally dominate in search engines and you get a pretty clear picture of where their success comes from. I saw other peoples sales stats from youporn.com back when they only allowed a few insiders to submit videos with banners under them and it was un-fucking-real how much traffic and sales were being generated."


(the link if you think I'm making it up http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19392007&postcount=54 )