TGP - TGP2: what are the differences ?

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

I think one reason that TGP galleries have bad conversion ratios is that the rules are often designed not to sell. A sale from a sunmitted gallery is a lost trade for the tgp owner.

The bad conversion ratios cause some of the less competent gallery builders to turn to cheating, and this is a far worse problem than the odd lost surfer to trade.

Well, this starts to make you wonder where tgp owners are making their money. Are they making it from surfers? Or are they making it from the webmasters that submit? lol...here's the theory that I've come up with. Some big tpgs are selling gallery spots $600+ right? If those spots were worth that much why wouldn't the tgp owner make a gallery themselves and just use that spot? Right...that's what I thought.

Still I think there's a lot of good tgps out there. I just think it's moving away from the tgp owner making money on surfers and maybe more of their revenue coming from webmasters.

As a mainstream webmaster and as with other webmasters that just make regular pages...we don't give content of that level away for free. If we do give content away for free people pay for it with popups, popunders, interstitials, etc.

What would make sense would be:
Fewer photos
Lesser quality photos (some places want 50k sized photos...the max should be 40k and 30k on the low side).
Even allow maybe 1 popup per webmaster.

Now if all tgp's did this the users would have to grin and bear it...you get what you pay for...if you pay nothing for free porn then you really have to bear some annoyances...i.e. fewer photos, lower quality, and maybe a popup, lol.

[cyberdream]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

Well, this starts to make you wonder where tgp owners are making their money. Are they making it from surfers? Or are they making it from the webmasters that submit? lol...here's the theory that I've come up with. Some big tpgs are selling gallery spots $600+ right? If those spots were worth that much why wouldn't the tgp owner make a gallery themselves and just use that spot? Right...that's what I thought.

TGP's make their money off their traffic. It’s a numbers game. We all know that they don't convert or if they do they convert at such a high ratio. I've been surfing for about 6 years now and have never had to buy a membership to anything. Even when I was in college the word around campus was thehun or jjj's. Just think about it, there is so much free porn why would you ever want to pay for it. Even the exclusive sites like teen kelly, little april raven riley and so on.. give away to much. There are galleries out there where you can get the whole picture series or full length movie just by changing numbers in the URL for example:
http://mysite.com/11/milf.html
http://mysite.com/12/milf.html
http://mysite.com/13/milf.html

If the porn community as a whole would like to increase there revenue then just quite giving it away. If you walked into McDonald's and they gave you half of a big mac for free at the door..would you honestly go into the restaurant to the counter and buy the rest of it....odds are no.... (There is a term for this that I studied in college in my economics class but, I can't remember what it is)

Think about it…. why do you think the largest traffic porn sites out there are free ones.... Many tpg's brag about bookmark traffic... well hell yes, the surfers not stupid they are going to bookmark something where they get something for free. A surfer doesn't go to a free site thinking....what site can i join today...the surfer will find the free samples that will get him off and he is done..it's that simple.. with the number and quality of pics out there why pay for it.

[Halfdeck]

Cyberdream I admit when I surf I have that same exact mentality. One time I signed up to porn dvd's 7 day free program to decide whether I promote them or not, and ended up downloading gigs (probably about 30+ gigs) worth of nicely encoded DVDs and cancelling on the 6th day.

Still, putting all the surfers into one box is equivalent to not filtering traffic at all, and as everyone keeps telling me, filtering is big in this biz.

[Jimmer]

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Still, putting all the surfers into one box is equivalent to not filtering traffic at all, and as everyone keeps telling me, filtering is big in this biz.

Using hubs is a great way to do this. You can add links to toplists on your niche specific hubs.