looking for conversion tips

DarkEmber · 2005-02-14, 06:56 PM

In general, just looking for some hints or tips from the veterans, if you have a site or sites that have a good CTR but bad conversion where do you start to look? I've even taken the same site and used it with a few different sponsors with the same result (pass the lube) so I have to look at it being "ME"....they say admitting your fault is the first step

Anyway, I didn't want to go through a whole site review piece since one of the sites reviewed decently a while back...was just looking for what the key areas are that are good to check. I'd love to make the on the bench sessions but sat afternoon is about the ONLY time that is bad.

Thanks for any comments in advance.

BlueQuartz · 2005-02-14, 07:19 PM

well if you want to make your conversions better then I suggest filtering as much as possible

separate your traffic sources and send the traffic to sponsors that will work best with the traffic source you have

DarkEmber · 2005-02-14, 07:31 PM

lets pretend that I don't understand 100 % what you meant by that

haha

BlueQuartz · 2005-02-14, 07:43 PM

immm ok you have a site that is getting good clickthrus but bad conversions

possible causes imo.....

you are making false or other wise misleading claims in your advertising and as such when the surfer gets to the paysite he is dissapointed and simply backs out.

Another thing is the sponsor site might not match the type of porn they are looking for and they are just clickign cuz they are curious

your sponsors site might simply suck - try another one on the next free site you build

hope that helps....

pcum · 2005-02-19, 11:17 AM

You must give the surfer what they are looking for, you don't know what they are looking for? Than you have to give them options to go to and hopefully they choose something they buy

docholly · 2005-02-19, 12:48 PM

If you sincerely want to improve your conversions.. then you should really invest 1 hour per week and attend OTB with MML.

It is one of the best investments you can make for your once and future business.

is the |king|

PR_Tom · 2005-02-19, 01:08 PM

Do a little project. Go to google right now and type in "mature porn" (or pick a niche), now write down or bookmark the top 15 or 20 link sites that show up. (maybe repeat on yahoo and condense to top 15 or 20).
Now visit them and surf a bit. See a sponsor of yours underpromoted there? Good, now build a free site in that niche that meets the requirements..

Simple maybe. You already do it maybe. But filtering doesnt *start* at your index page.. it starts way before that, so use some basic tools and ideas to get a pre-qualified surfer to your site.

Also build your sites ads with the sponsor tour and members area in mind (request a members area pass, it can only help and can never hurt to ask). Use the info to accurately reflect what is actually there. Then the surfer see's the tour and see's you didnt bullshit them and promise them the moon. Gives some positive reinforcement in their mind.

Basically keep factoring out random luck as much as possible every step of the way.

I'd even suggest using campaign/banner tracking codes on your sponsor links wherever available. It's more data to use. If an ad spot gets you 90% of your total clicks, you could use that information right?

Anyway good luck!

Halfdeck · 2005-02-20, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholly

If you sincerely want to improve your conversions.. then you should really invest 1 hour per week and attend OTB with MML.

It is one of the best investments you can make for your once and future business.

is the |king|

Ahem, what time is it? I really wanna make it next weekend

BTW, thanks for the smart tips bq and PR_Tom. Some guy told me he ignores clicks to sponsors just focus on no. of sales. Now I'm starting to see the wisdom behind that idea.

linsys · 2005-02-20, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholly

If you sincerely want to improve your conversions.. then you should really invest 1 hour per week and attend OTB with MML.

What is OTB with MML?

cobrasnake · 2005-02-20, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linsys

What is OTB with MML?

OTB stands for on the bench and MML is MrMaryLou

Greenguy · 2005-02-20, 07:32 AM

MrMaryLou hosts a chat (now with audio) every Saturday at 3 PM EST. You can find the thread on it each Saturday morning

2005-02-14, 06:56 PM	#1
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	looking for conversion tips In general, just looking for some hints or tips from the veterans, if you have a site or sites that have a good CTR but bad conversion where do you start to look? I've even taken the same site and used it with a few different sponsors with the same result (pass the lube) so I have to look at it being "ME"....they say admitting your fault is the first step Anyway, I didn't want to go through a whole site review piece since one of the sites reviewed decently a while back...was just looking for what the key areas are that are good to check. I'd love to make the on the bench sessions but sat afternoon is about the ONLY time that is bad. Thanks for any comments in advance.

2005-02-14, 07:19 PM	#2
BlueQuartz The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 175	well if you want to make your conversions better then I suggest filtering as much as possible separate your traffic sources and send the traffic to sponsors that will work best with the traffic source you have __________________ THE BIGGEST LIST OF EPASSPORTE SPONSORS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN

2005-02-14, 07:43 PM	#4
BlueQuartz The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 175	immm ok you have a site that is getting good clickthrus but bad conversions possible causes imo..... you are making false or other wise misleading claims in your advertising and as such when the surfer gets to the paysite he is dissapointed and simply backs out. Another thing is the sponsor site might not match the type of porn they are looking for and they are just clickign cuz they are curious your sponsors site might simply suck - try another one on the next free site you build hope that helps.... __________________ THE BIGGEST LIST OF EPASSPORTE SPONSORS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN

2005-02-19, 11:17 AM	#5
pcum Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 95	You must give the surfer what they are looking for, you don't know what they are looking for? Than you have to give them options to go to and hopefully they choose something they buy __________________ Stay in Business with Pcum

2005-02-19, 12:48 PM	#6
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	If you sincerely want to improve your conversions.. then you should really invest 1 hour per week and attend OTB with MML. It is one of the best investments you can make for your once and future business. is the \|king\| __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2005-02-14, 07:31 PM	#3
DarkEmber WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Where the Cows Graze Posts: 47	lets pretend that I don't understand 100 % what you meant by that haha

2005-02-19, 01:08 PM	#7
PR_Tom Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 423	Do a little project. Go to google right now and type in "mature porn" (or pick a niche), now write down or bookmark the top 15 or 20 link sites that show up. (maybe repeat on yahoo and condense to top 15 or 20). Now visit them and surf a bit. See a sponsor of yours underpromoted there? Good, now build a free site in that niche that meets the requirements.. Simple maybe. You already do it maybe. But filtering doesnt start at your index page.. it starts way before that, so use some basic tools and ideas to get a pre-qualified surfer to your site. Also build your sites ads with the sponsor tour and members area in mind (request a members area pass, it can only help and can never hurt to ask). Use the info to accurately reflect what is actually there. Then the surfer see's the tour and see's you didnt bullshit them and promise them the moon. Gives some positive reinforcement in their mind. Basically keep factoring out random luck as much as possible every step of the way. I'd even suggest using campaign/banner tracking codes on your sponsor links wherever available. It's more data to use. If an ad spot gets you 90% of your total clicks, you could use that information right? Anyway good luck! __________________ PimpRoll

2005-02-20, 07:32 AM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	MrMaryLou hosts a chat (now with audio) every Saturday at 3 PM EST. You can find the thread on it each Saturday morning __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network