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Old 2005-06-07, 04:12 PM   #1
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I'm in a holding pattern. I'm organizing and contacting sponsers and content producers about getting docs. If the law is blocked then cool. If not I will have some work to do. My plan is this:
1. If the site has sponser content or content I bought and I now have the correct docs, no problem, it stays and I add the urls to my database.
2. If the site has sponser content or content I bought and I can't get the docs for whatever reason then I will either replace the content with like content that I do have the docs for or just 404 the site. I may make some basic sites that I have the docs for in each niche I work in and upload those in place. So if I have a cheerleader site and I'm using sponser content and I can't get the docs for it I yank the site and put up a replacement with content I have the docs for. I'm planning on making a 404 page that simply says something like " due to circumstances beyond our control this site is no longer availible please hit your back button to return to the site you came from" I may or may not put a link to a sponser on it to make a few bucks on the side

From what I understand most link sites and TGP's seem to be understanding about 404'ing a site. If I start getting blacklisted for doing this I will deal with that when the time comes.
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Old 2005-06-07, 04:20 PM   #2
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I'm planning on making a 404 page that simply says something like " due to circumstances beyond our control this site is no longer availible please hit your back button to return to the site you came from" I may or may not put a link to a sponser on it to make a few bucks on the side
This is something that should have been discussed in more detail before we all said 'pull your links and don't let the door hit you in the ass'. I'm seeing an increased amount of submitters 404ing to their own traffic sites and I cannot explain how much that pisses me off. A simple 404 page with a couple of adds wouldn't have bothered me. I'm holding back on my urge to blacklist people right now, but I still look at it all as a voluntary thing. The submitter decided to duck and run. I shouldn't have to pay for their cowardess with my traffic. The entire time I'm thinking - great, these cocksuckers have thrown in the towel and they don't mind fucking me by pissing off my surfers. Makes it pretty damn hard to maintain a clean site.
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Old 2005-06-07, 04:30 PM   #3
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This is something that should have been discussed in more detail before we all said 'pull your links and don't let the door hit you in the ass'. I'm seeing an increased amount of submitters 404ing to their own traffic sites and I cannot explain how much that pisses me off. A simple 404 page with a couple of adds wouldn't have bothered me. I'm holding back on my urge to blacklist people right now, but I still look at it all as a voluntary thing. The submitter decided to duck and run. I shouldn't have to pay for their cowardess with my traffic. The entire time I'm thinking - great, these cocksuckers have thrown in the towel and they don't mind fucking me by pissing off my surfers. Makes it pretty damn hard to maintain a clean site.
yeah I understand. I've been around awhile and plan on staying around so I don't want to screw up my relationship with any sites that is why I decided to make a very clear and freindly 404 page. I think I may put a link that says . "If you want porn go here" or something like that and link it to a FPA with some sponsers on it. No pop-ups just if they were looking for something they may find it there and if not they can hit the back button a couple of times and go back to the site they came from. I may lose a little money doing it this way, but I think I will keep my relationships in tact and that is more important to me in the long run.
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Old 2005-06-07, 06:57 PM   #4
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I'm seeing an increased amount of submitters 404ing to their own traffic sites and I cannot explain how much that pisses me off. A simple 404 page with a couple of adds wouldn't have bothered me.
I don't think I ever really had any of my old free sites submitted to you, so I'm sure I'm not one of the people you are talking about, But I made every effort both here on the boards and via email to all the LL owners that might be affected, of exactly what sites I was bringing down last fall, with about 3 weeks advance notice. And then, on that date, yes, I 404ed 'em mainly to my own text-link traffic pages or straight to sponsor tours,you bet. I still have, or had, decent SE traffic that I was trying to take advantage of, since taking those sites down hit my sales (such as they are) pretty hard.

I presume the only LL owners who might have blacklisted me for that (and I don't know of any offhand but there may be some since I hgavent been submitting free sites since last fall) are the ones that don't check their email. 'Cause I made every possible effort to let them know.

Now, as for people who bring their sites down and do 404 redirects without even making an effort to advise the list owners, hell yeah, blacklist 'em all, I say!
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