Considering Asking The FSC To Remove Me From The Members List

MadMax · 2005-06-23, 08:03 PM

Made You Look

Seriously though, maybe it's just me, but I don't think so. This whole situation has got me feeling like I'm in the twilight zone at this point. I joined the FSC to help put some cash towards the fight, not to get my name on what will may well become a hit list somewhere down the road. One thing I don't trust the government to do is keep a secret.

I'm as compliant as one can be with this ridiculousness, even though it was a total fucking nightmare, and I believe that 2257 as it stands will go down in flames...but then I read about the new DOD pre-draft database, about the Supreme Court handing down a decision that allows a city to throw you out of your house and pay you whatever they feel like paying you so some asshat developer can build a shopping mall, and I wonder about that too. "Economically depressed area" my ass. The whole fucking country is an economically depressed area...except for Beverly Hills, which is doing better than ever....thanks GWB.

At the very least the signal has been clearly sent to the DOJ that the adult industry will not stand together, and that's just bad for business...the FSC has protected their members but didn't go for the throat, and that will reflect on all of us, members or not.

So, I'm considering telling them to convert my "membership dues" to a "contribution" and remove me from the list of members. Anyone else having the same thoughts? Or maybe I'll just bask in what's probably a false sense of security.

Then again, I might just be out here in left field again...

venturi · 2005-06-23, 08:37 PM

All I know is I've been dragging my heels for way too long to join the ACLU. Today's FSC circus stunt pushed me over the edge. So congrats ACLU you just got two new card carrying members. And fuck you very much FSC, you'll never see a dime from me.

Toby · 2005-06-23, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by venturi

...So congrats ACLU you just got two new card carrying members...

Make that three new card carrying members.

And their online membership form works too!

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-23, 09:03 PM

Make that 4

Mr. Blue · 2005-06-23, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Made You Look

Seriously though, maybe it's just me, but I don't think so. This whole situation has got me feeling like I'm in the twilight zone at this point. I joined the FSC to help put some cash towards the fight, not to get my name on what will may well become a hit list somewhere down the road. One thing I don't trust the government to do is keep a secret.

I'm as compliant as one can be with this ridiculousness, even though it was a total fucking nightmare, and I believe that 2257 as it stands will go down in flames...but then I read about the new DOD pre-draft database, about the Supreme Court handing down a decision that allows a city to throw you out of your house and pay you whatever they feel like paying you so some asshat developer can build a shopping mall, and I wonder about that too. "Economically depressed area" my ass. The whole fucking country is an economically depressed area...except for Beverly Hills, which is doing better than ever....thanks GWB.

At the very least the signal has been clearly sent to the DOJ that the adult industry will not stand together, and that's just bad for business...the FSC has protected their members but didn't go for the throat, and that will reflect on all of us, members or not.

So, I'm considering telling them to convert my "membership dues" to a "contribution" and remove me from the list of members. Anyone else having the same thoughts? Or maybe I'll just bask in what's probably a false sense of security.

Then again, I might just be out here in left field again...

Honestly do you want to be on any government list? No matter how you cut it instead of going for the jugular they worked with the DOJ. Sorry, but if the FSC wasn't involved the ACLU would have been and the ACLU would have made the DOJ their bitches instead of meeting over brunch to hammer out some half-assed deal.

Erick G · 2005-06-23, 09:10 PM

Can someone post the link to the ACLU signup form?

Toby · 2005-06-23, 09:11 PM

http://www.aclu.org/Contribute/Contribute.cfm

Erick G · 2005-06-23, 09:42 PM

thanks

Sarah_Jayne · 2005-06-23, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby

http://www.aclu.org/Contribute/Contribute.cfm

" The page you requested is temporarily unavailable. Please check back later.

Thank you. 0505"

lol

fudge · 2005-06-23, 10:26 PM

LowryBigwood · 2005-06-23, 10:41 PM

I agree, the FSC will never get a dime out of me either. I'm not happy with the way this played out.

Thanks for the ACLU link.

PR_Tom · 2005-06-23, 10:48 PM

Wow, so you all think that a sealed list that the DOJ will never see is somehow going to lead to them inspecting your compliant records? Hmm.. I have to say I'm baffled

It's how the system works, no biggy to be a member. It simply makes you a co-plaintiff.

The people who should be worried are the actual, factual purveyors of undocumented and illegal images that would *already* be on a "hit list". If one of them is queued up for inspection, the DOJ will tell the court appointed special master, they'll see if that person is on the list, and the DOJ will simply wait until after sept. 7th unless they get a warrant anyway.

I think this is a large over-reaction personally, thats all.

Raven · 2005-06-23, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturi

All I know is I've been dragging my heels for way too long to join the ACLU. Today's FSC circus stunt pushed me over the edge. So congrats ACLU you just got two new card carrying members. And fuck you very much FSC, you'll never see a dime from me.

Cause no one ever gets THEIR list.

2msacras · 2005-06-24, 12:27 AM

Suckers, I've been down with the ACLU since college. And I don't even remember what we were fighting for back then. By back then I mean five years ago. Which means I don't have much of a memory.

2005-06-23, 08:03 PM	#1
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Considering Asking The FSC To Remove Me From The Members List Made You Look Seriously though, maybe it's just me, but I don't think so. This whole situation has got me feeling like I'm in the twilight zone at this point. I joined the FSC to help put some cash towards the fight, not to get my name on what will may well become a hit list somewhere down the road. One thing I don't trust the government to do is keep a secret. I'm as compliant as one can be with this ridiculousness, even though it was a total fucking nightmare, and I believe that 2257 as it stands will go down in flames...but then I read about the new DOD pre-draft database, about the Supreme Court handing down a decision that allows a city to throw you out of your house and pay you whatever they feel like paying you so some asshat developer can build a shopping mall, and I wonder about that too. "Economically depressed area" my ass. The whole fucking country is an economically depressed area...except for Beverly Hills, which is doing better than ever....thanks GWB. At the very least the signal has been clearly sent to the DOJ that the adult industry will not stand together, and that's just bad for business...the FSC has protected their members but didn't go for the throat, and that will reflect on all of us, members or not. So, I'm considering telling them to convert my "membership dues" to a "contribution" and remove me from the list of members. Anyone else having the same thoughts? Or maybe I'll just bask in what's probably a false sense of security. Then again, I might just be out here in left field again...

2005-06-23, 08:37 PM	#2
venturi No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 282	All I know is I've been dragging my heels for way too long to join the ACLU. Today's FSC circus stunt pushed me over the edge. So congrats ACLU you just got two new card carrying members. And fuck you very much FSC, you'll never see a dime from me. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2005-06-23, 09:11 PM	#7
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	http://www.aclu.org/Contribute/Contribute.cfm __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2005-06-23, 10:41 PM	#11
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	I agree, the FSC will never get a dime out of me either. I'm not happy with the way this played out. Thanks for the ACLU link. __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog

2005-06-23, 10:48 PM	#12
PR_Tom Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 423	Wow, so you all think that a sealed list that the DOJ will never see is somehow going to lead to them inspecting your compliant records? Hmm.. I have to say I'm baffled It's how the system works, no biggy to be a member. It simply makes you a co-plaintiff. The people who should be worried are the actual, factual purveyors of undocumented and illegal images that would already be on a "hit list". If one of them is queued up for inspection, the DOJ will tell the court appointed special master, they'll see if that person is on the list, and the DOJ will simply wait until after sept. 7th unless they get a warrant anyway. I think this is a large over-reaction personally, thats all. __________________ PimpRoll

2005-06-23, 09:03 PM	#4
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Make that 4

2005-06-23, 09:10 PM	#6
Erick G Look maah I moved out and got my own space:) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 555	Can someone post the link to the ACLU signup form?

2005-06-23, 09:42 PM	#8
Erick G Look maah I moved out and got my own space:) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 555	thanks

2005-06-23, 10:26 PM	#10
fudge Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Under a tree with a laptop and a cigar. Posts: 4	5

2005-06-24, 12:27 AM	#14
2msacras The sun? That's the hottest place on Earth Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 394	Suckers, I've been down with the ACLU since college. And I don't even remember what we were fighting for back then. By back then I mean five years ago. Which means I don't have much of a memory.