Florida's new gun laws

[SirMoby]

I just read what I could find of the bill on Florida's web site. What concerns is that I read nothing about alcohol influence or provoking someone. Basically the new law allows me to start a fight in a bar by calling someone’s mother, wife or girlfriend a whore. If that person comes towards me in a threatening manner like would be a normal response I can shoot them.

The opportunity in this new bill to commit first-degree murder and kill random people is huge. Yelling at the opposing crowd in a sporting event could now get you shot.

While this bill does correct some absurd notions about my right to protect my family it is irresponsible in its support of random violence. A better written bill could be acceptable but this is fucking nuts.

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I just read what I could find of the bill on Florida's web site. What concerns is that I read nothing about alcohol influence or provoking someone. Basically the new law allows me to start a fight in a bar by calling someone’s mother, wife or girlfriend a whore. If that person comes towards me in a threatening manner like would be a normal response I can shoot them.

The opportunity in this new bill to commit first-degree murder and kill random people is huge. Yelling at the opposing crowd in a sporting event could now get you shot.

While this bill does correct some absurd notions about my right to protect my family it is irresponsible in its support of random violence. A better written bill could be acceptable but this is fucking nuts.

I'd like to understand the purpose of the bill. In all countries with a common law tradition (US, Canada, UK, Australia, etc) you've always had a right to defend yourself from the attacks of another and, if necessary, kill the person. Why create another piece of legislation?

---art

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by artwilliams

I'd like to understand the purpose of the bill. In all countries with a common law tradition (US, Canada, UK, Australia, etc) you've always had a right to defend yourself from the attacks of another and, if necessary, kill the person. Why create another piece of legislation?

---art

Unfortunately in the USA you don't really have the right to protect yourself with such a level of force. I legally cannot shot someone for simply breaking into my child's room and if they don't have a weapon then I really can't use a gun to keep them from raping my wife.

Of course even if someone enters my home and points a gun at me there is the civil suit that the criminals family can slap me with if I shoot.

This law states that I can now use a gun to protect myself in situations that were previously outlawed or open to civil suits. From that stand point it's really a blow to bullshit lawyers and prosecutors but if you read the text it opens up a new world of legal killings.