Desperate please help!

neveremail · 2005-10-21, 07:22 AM

I've made 8 sales I think in my first 5 weeks of submitting free sites. And not with a good conversion ratio either. I'm bringing approx 700 clickthroughs a day to sponsors after these 5 weeks.

Finding places that send you traffic is key. But thinking about the quality of that traffic is important too.

I have taken the approach of leaving TGPs till later as they are a lot harder to do. Difficulties include: Getting partner accounts, more bandwidth, lower conversion ratios, stricter rules. I have heard from many that without partner accounts TGP submitting is a waste of time. I started with freesites due to higher quality traffic, less strict rules, lower bandwidth, and gives long term traffic. Also many LL owners will point you in the right direction if you do something wrong. So you will get your hand held a little bit more that from doing TGPs.

One peice of advice that I think is worthwhile is build up your submission list for both freesites and TGPs manually. This is what many on the board said and I cant agree more. You can use databases you find elsewhere as a starting point but expand on it and check out each site individually before you start submitting. Research what are the best TGPs and LLs to be listed on and concentrate on getting listed there. Already the top 14 LLs account for 70% of my sales.

Also go for Pay per signup option if you really need cash to start with. This way you know you will get $35 a sale. Rev share can be better for some sponsors but in my limited experience I have found that usuing rev share rarely pays off and I've already lost over a hundred dollars with one sponsor alone by trying out revshare first.

I think trying a smaller niche might be worthwhile, especailly for freesites. A more general niche such as teens may be better for TGP traffic though.

Remember that your submission list for each niche should be unique and differ slightly.

If your having trouble selling your niche then research it. See how your sponsors try and sell and copy them. Get into the surfers head, know what the surfer wants and reflect it in your advertising.

Some good articles to read:
How to learn and promote a microniche: http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...887#post913887
Making money with freesites: http://www.webmasterboards.net/showthread.php?t=6586
Making money with freesites and TGPs: http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...&highlight=IRC

And keep asking questions on this board. There is a wealth of information and so many people here really know there stuff when it comes to freesites. Have a search through some old threads too. I came to this board not even knowing what a freesite was and without the help from this board I doubt I'd be bringing in the traffic and making the sales I have done after my first month of submissions. Not that I think my acheivements in my first month are by any means impressive, but without researching I would have done a lot worse.

Sorry for babbling but I got some really boring work to do over the next few days and I'm procrastinating.

2005-10-21, 07:22 AM	#1
neveremail Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 504	I've made 8 sales I think in my first 5 weeks of submitting free sites. And not with a good conversion ratio either. I'm bringing approx 700 clickthroughs a day to sponsors after these 5 weeks. Finding places that send you traffic is key. But thinking about the quality of that traffic is important too. I have taken the approach of leaving TGPs till later as they are a lot harder to do. Difficulties include: Getting partner accounts, more bandwidth, lower conversion ratios, stricter rules. I have heard from many that without partner accounts TGP submitting is a waste of time. I started with freesites due to higher quality traffic, less strict rules, lower bandwidth, and gives long term traffic. Also many LL owners will point you in the right direction if you do something wrong. So you will get your hand held a little bit more that from doing TGPs. One peice of advice that I think is worthwhile is build up your submission list for both freesites and TGPs manually. This is what many on the board said and I cant agree more. You can use databases you find elsewhere as a starting point but expand on it and check out each site individually before you start submitting. Research what are the best TGPs and LLs to be listed on and concentrate on getting listed there. Already the top 14 LLs account for 70% of my sales. Also go for Pay per signup option if you really need cash to start with. This way you know you will get $35 a sale. Rev share can be better for some sponsors but in my limited experience I have found that usuing rev share rarely pays off and I've already lost over a hundred dollars with one sponsor alone by trying out revshare first. I think trying a smaller niche might be worthwhile, especailly for freesites. A more general niche such as teens may be better for TGP traffic though. Remember that your submission list for each niche should be unique and differ slightly. If your having trouble selling your niche then research it. See how your sponsors try and sell and copy them. Get into the surfers head, know what the surfer wants and reflect it in your advertising. Some good articles to read: How to learn and promote a microniche: http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...887#post913887 Making money with freesites: http://www.webmasterboards.net/showthread.php?t=6586 Making money with freesites and TGPs: http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...&highlight=IRC And keep asking questions on this board. There is a wealth of information and so many people here really know there stuff when it comes to freesites. Have a search through some old threads too. I came to this board not even knowing what a freesite was and without the help from this board I doubt I'd be bringing in the traffic and making the sales I have done after my first month of submissions. Not that I think my acheivements in my first month are by any means impressive, but without researching I would have done a lot worse. Sorry for babbling but I got some really boring work to do over the next few days and I'm procrastinating. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files