Dudes, where's my SE traffic?

Greenguy · 2005-12-18, 10:20 AM

I don't even know how to start to reply to this thread

I always thought that submitting free sites to link lists was so that you got traffic (and hopefully sales) form the link list's traffic.

If you're doing it solely for SE gains, then maybe you need to work a strictly SE approach & forget about free sites & galleries.

On a personal note, my traffic took a shit form Google same time last year & it built itself back up over time & I see no reason why it won't build back up again (same thing every year - I'm getting used to it)

Mr. Blue · 2005-12-18, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

I always thought that submitting free sites to link lists was so that you got traffic (and hopefully sales) form the link list's traffic.

That's pretty much my take on building freesites for LL and galleries for TGP's. If you do get SE traffic from it, that's just gravy, but that's not the main reason you submit.

Building galleries for example - If you build one gallery, duplicate it a few hundred times, and submit it to 1000 TGP's...google isn't going to index those pages as they would a site that doesn't have that linking or duplication. Again, you'll get some SE traffic, but not like you would with pages specifically designed for SE traffic.

So...if you building purely for SE traffic I think you should do that.

Greenguy · 2005-12-18, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

...If you do get SE traffic from it, that's just gravy, but that's not the main reason you submit...

You said that much better than I did

Surfn · 2005-12-18, 10:51 AM

I must agree with Mr. Blue

Do SE stuff on your hubs.

Waka-Jawaka · 2005-12-18, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

Do SE stuff on your hubs.

You dont believe "linking to a bad neighborhood" may afects to the WHOLE domain?

Surfn · 2005-12-18, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Waka-Jawaka

You dont believe "linking to a bad neighborhood" may afects to the WHOLE domain?

I have no way of knowing if your hubs are bad neighborhoods?

Waka-Jawaka · 2005-12-18, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

... your hubs are bad neighborhoods?

Waka-Jawaka · 2005-12-18, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

If you do get SE traffic from it, that's just gravy, but that's not the main reason you submit.

Yeah , lumpy gravy ...
You're quite right

But almost a half of all sales last month I got from those old freesites that do get a certain amount of SE traffic.
So it is not out of place to have some SE trafic on freesites.

Talleyrand · 2005-12-18, 12:00 PM

Hi People

If I understood it well, the best is to have at least:

1. Some domain for only free sites submitted to ll.
2. Some domain for only galleries submitted to TGP.
3. Some domain for only AVS.
4. Some domain for a site maked thinking only in SE.

OK?

Talleyrand

Mr. Blue · 2005-12-18, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Waka-Jawaka

Yeah , lumpy gravy ...
You're quite right

But almost a half of all sales last month I got from those old freesites that do get a certain amount of SE traffic.
So it is not out of place to have some SE trafic on freesites.

You definitely get SE traffic from submitting to LL's. I just think there's better ways to get SE traffic than just freesites. I think if you wanted SE traffic from freesites there's a few things you could do. If I were to come up with a working theory on it and this is just speculation on my part, but:

1. I'd think submitting to fewer LL would eliminate the duplicate page penalty. I mean if you only had 1 page, 16 recips, and it wasn't duplicated...you'd definitely remove that penalty.
2. The 16 LL's with the highest PR, that will list you regularly, and that will keep you the longest.
3. Writing a shitload of sales text for spider food.
4. Interlinking all the pages with in the freesite and having it link back to your hub.
5. Using different templates for every submit - as the same template structure might come up as a duplicate page.

I don't think you'd get "penalized" for linking one site that might be getting a google penalty. I think if the domain was banned at google that might effect you more. So, just check if the domain is banned/blacklisted at google, if it isn't, I wouldn't overly think about it. Especially if you're submitting to a small list of LL's.

Right now I submit to 22 LL, I'm thinking of dropping down to 16 LL to see how that would play in the SE/PR/Serp thing

2005-12-18, 10:20 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I don't even know how to start to reply to this thread I always thought that submitting free sites to link lists was so that you got traffic (and hopefully sales) form the link list's traffic. If you're doing it solely for SE gains, then maybe you need to work a strictly SE approach & forget about free sites & galleries. On a personal note, my traffic took a shit form Google same time last year & it built itself back up over time & I see no reason why it won't build back up again (same thing every year - I'm getting used to it) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-12-18, 10:51 AM	#4
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I must agree with Mr. Blue Do SE stuff on your hubs. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2005-12-18, 12:00 PM	#9
Talleyrand Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 200	Hi People If I understood it well, the best is to have at least: 1. Some domain for only free sites submitted to ll. 2. Some domain for only galleries submitted to TGP. 3. Some domain for only AVS. 4. Some domain for a site maked thinking only in SE. OK? Talleyrand