Heaps of recips

[Dave S]

Originally Posted by NetGoonie

Don't forget to do some search engine optimization as well...you will thank yourself later for this.

Well, that was kinda my idea behind 30-40 recips on one page. The way I see it is this, and I apologise if it's a simplistic view but I'm a still a bit of a newbie.

Most linklists want the SE value of recips right? Surely that is more important that the visitors they get from the index page.

If that bit is correct then it's better if they are linked from a unique page because google penalises heavily for duplicate content. If I make a unique freesite it should get a better page rank and therefore the linklists on my index should get more benefit from being linked to from it.

In addition to that, if I put 40 recips on a page and submit to 40 linklists then I have more incoming links to that one page and therefore the page is going to have its page ranke infalted even more (although some incoming links will be wasted if they use a trade script or "out" script)

So the linklists still have as many freesites linking to them but they all have higher page rank. Only downside is that they lose some of the clicks from surfers of other linklists.

OK, i'm ready for someone to point out the fatal flaw now

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Dave S

Most linklists want the SE value of recips right? Surely that is more important that the visitors they get from the index page.

If I make a unique freesite it should get a better page rank and therefore the linklists on my index should get more benefit from being linked to from it.


OK, i'm ready for someone to point out the fatal flaw now

OK - here ya go - First off - most LLs(and submitters) misunderstand the SE value of recips - there isnt any unless the page submitted has its own outside linking generating page rank to that linked page.

Where does the submitted warning page get its page rank? From the LLs linking to it obviously - so by linking to your warning page I am generating the page rank for you - only to have you pass it back to me at a reduced value as it is now shared between 12 LLS.

Now increase that split on the shared page rank to 40 - not a winning solution

More important is that you would think along the lines of making each "mirror" of the free site unique enough to avoid any duplication penalty - and most impotant - most older LLs know that there is little - if any SE value in recip linking from free sites - we already have traffic/link trades with the LLs you are submitting to so we arent going to get any more value from your free site - most of us that have been around for a while realized a long time ago that we need the submitters free site for content and we trade traffic to your site for it - end of story

[LowryBigwood]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Where does the submitted warning page get its page rank? From the LLs linking to it obviously - so by linking to your warning page I am generating the page rank for you - only to have you pass it back to me at a reduced value as it is now shared between 12 LLS.

Now increase that split on the shared page rank to 40 - not a winning solution

I'm a little confused, could be cause i just ripped . But anyhow, I dont understand why as an LL owner, we would care about getting the pagerank back from the freesite, whether it be shared among 12 or 40 other LLs. Isn't the trade for the use of the submitters content? Granted, 40 recips is way too many IMHO.

But isn't the freesite getting a share of pagerank from all the other sites listed on your LL page? Could be sharing with hundreds of freesites. So, howmuch pagerank is really going into each freesite, and what is coming back?

Maybe I should put the bong down. But I consistenly build my freesites with 16-24 recips.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood

But anyhow, I dont understand why as an LL owner, we would care about getting the pagerank back from the freesite, whether it be shared among 12 or 40 other LLs. Isn't the trade for the use of the submitters content?
But isn't the freesite getting a share of pagerank from all the other sites listed on your LL page? Could be sharing with hundreds of freesites. So, howmuch pagerank is really going into each freesite, and what is coming back?

Yes - you are correct which is why I said basically the same thing in the last paragraph above Most of us could care less about the small amount of page rank (again if any) from free sites Its all about the content and traffic trade.

ecchi - I dont think LLs would even know one way or another if you were using SSI as thats on your server and never appears on your displayed pages - as long as youre not doing anything out of the ordinary

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Linkster

ecchi - I dont think LLs would even know one way or another if you were using SSI as thats on your server and never appears on your displayed pages - as long as youre not doing anything out of the ordinary

That was exactly my thought, but then I thought...maybe there's some way to tell that I don't know about. I'd better keep my blasphemous mouth shut. So I did.

[MrYum]

Yep, ssi is server side...the end browser should never even know it's there. A slow/overworked server serving up the calls too slowly may be about the only hiccup.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Linkster

ecchi - I dont think LLs would even know one way or another if you were using SSI as thats on your server and never appears on your displayed pages

Because instead of index.html the page would be called index.shtml or index.php. Although you could submit without the file name (i.e "www.porno.com/lesbians/" instead of "www.porno.com/lesbians/index.shtml") any sensible webmaster with a "no SSI" rule will check you are not trying to get round this rule by loading the site with the file name .html or .htm.
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[DutchGuy]

Not really Ecchi,

You can configure your server to also parse .htm and .html or really any file you want.

So even a htm file can have SSI enabled.