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[ecchi]

You missed the point of my post. I was not posting to ask you to justify your site, I was pointing out what changes you need to make to get webmasters to sign up to your affiliate program.

1. If a webmaster is interested in promoting solo girl sites he will already have a full portfolio. He will have no interest whatsoever in signing up another one unless you give him a reason yours is better. Regardless of what UW says, saying your sites are as good but no better than others is saying "don't bother signing up with me, you already have plenty of sponsors like this, go elsewhere and find a better sponsor". (That said DON'T lie, just find a reason you are better, or different, to others.)

2. Don't tell me this, make it clear on your site (although be more concise than you were in your post). You need to convince anyone who comes to your site that you really can run a website on 15% of membership fees. Otherwise a lot of them will assume you are a shaver and not sign up.

3. and 4. Again make this clear on your site (although again make it more concise). If I had come across your affiliate program as it is while looking for solo sites to promote, I would not have signed up. But if it had all the info you have in your post I probably would have done.

Although N.B. my comment "make it more concise". I read all your post here, but if there had been that much wordage on an affiliate site I would have skipped it and gone elsewhere. Try to make each point in 3 short sentences or less.

[hollywood376]

Originally Posted by ecchi

You missed the point of my post. I was not posting to ask you to justify your site, I was pointing out what changes you need to make to get webmasters to sign up to your affiliate program.

1. If a webmaster is interested in promoting solo girl sites he will already have a full portfolio. He will have no interest whatsoever in signing up another one unless you give him a reason yours is better. Regardless of what UW says, saying your sites are as good but no better than others is saying "don't bother signing up with me, you already have plenty of sponsors like this, go elsewhere and find a better sponsor". (That said DON'T lie, just find a reason you are better, or different, to others.)

2. Don't tell me this, make it clear on your site (although be more concise than you were in your post). You need to convince anyone who comes to your site that you really can run a website on 15% of membership fees. Otherwise a lot of them will assume you are a shaver and not sign up.

3. and 4. Again make this clear on your site (although again make it more concise). If I had come across your affiliate program as it is while looking for solo sites to promote, I would not have signed up. But if it had all the info you have in your post I probably would have done.

Although N.B. my comment "make it more concise". I read all your post here, but if there had been that much wordage on an affiliate site I would have skipped it and gone elsewhere. Try to make each point in 3 short sentences or less.

good points. Of course I will not be so wordy on the site, as I know people don't want to read more than they have to.
One problem I have is that I don't want to mislead anyone. Should I get on my site and claim to have ratios of 1:72? Becasue I can say that and not be lying, I just wouldn't be telling the whole story. One guys traffic differs from another, so past ratios realy don't mean a lot, except to the person that earned that ratio. Plus, what's the number based on? 1st page? 2nd? Join? Those differences can drastically change the ratios. 1:1200 1st page might be 1:150 join.

Today I am running some gallery traffic through my FHG's to see how they convert? A few hundred thousand hits should tell me something, I would think. I'll share the results when I have them.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by hollywood376

One problem I have is that I don't want to mislead anyone.

Yes. Misleading people may get you a lot of webmasters to start with, but they will soon bugger off again when they realise you are stretching the truth.

The thing to do it try and find something that is uniquish to your site. If you do not have something, add something. If you cannot add something, do not expect to make a lot of money in this business.

That said, it does not have to be amazing. An example is the "autographed photo" thing I mentioned a while back. It will cost you, what, a dollar. But if it gives you 6 months membership fees it is worth the dollar. And things like that will also attract webmasters to sell the site.

One big important fact you appear to have got wrong is that you think you are in the porn business. You are not. You are in the advertising business. Whatever is on your site, however unique it is, however good it is I guarantee several thousand people will be doing the same thing. And a lot of them will be better than you. Tell me now why someone should sign up to your site instead of one of the other several thousand similar sites? Think, if you were the buyer not the seller, why the hell would you join your site instead of someone else's? The only thing that gets people to sign up is your tour. Even if you have the best webmasters in the world pushing your site, with the best adverts in the world, when the surfer hits your site, if it does not tell them "this site is exactly what you are looking for", the surfer will bugger off without buying. And worse than that, the webmasters who know what they are doing, know this. If they look at your site and do not think it sells itself, they will not pick you up as a sponsor, they have more profitable things to send their traffic to.

And the same goes for the webmaster's page. You have to sell it to them. You have to convince them that they will make more money selling your site than someone else's. Fail to do that and you get exactly zero webmasters.

And you have to do all this without lying.

That is why I said you are in the advertising business, not the porn business. If you are no good at 'selling' the surfers will never even see your porn.

There are two things you should have done before setting up a paysite. So, if you have not already done them, do them now. They are:

1.Read lots of books on advertising (and I mean lots of books, put in several hundred hours of reading just for the basics). And if possible consider taking a course on advertising.

2. Create lots of free sites and galleries selling other sponsors. Only by practising this will you work out how to sell to surfers. And you will also find out what webmasters want, by being one. Don't consider this lesson over until you are making a good living out of free sites and galleries. Don't even imagine that you have the slightest hope of getting webmaster's to use your affiliate program until then.

Maybe I am scaring you, but don't read this and think "Oh shit, I can't do all that". Instead think "I AM going to do all that. Because you have the site now, so you have to do that.