The Gop is gonna steal the nov elections again

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Tommy

he didnt cause north korea to fire those missles

He needs to sit down and chat with them. Face to face. The USA has lost a lot of pull because we're in debt to China due to Dubya's tax cuts/spending policies and allowing China to peg their currency to US dollars. NK sees Iran pushing the USA around and figures it's time to do the same.

Originally Posted by Tommy

hes not to blame for this bullshit coming out of iran

If Sadaam was still in power he would have rolled his tanks into Iran. Unfortunately when Sadaam tried to open a dialogue (at least 3 times) through his brother's in Jordan sending letters to Dubya they went ignored. Peace could have been achieved through talk but Dubya's supporters want killings instead. The USA can't go into Iran without making things much worse here. They know it. Of course Dubya will either nuke them or at least start some shit right before he leaves office just like his daddy did.

Originally Posted by Tommy

hes not really to blame for high gas prices

That's true. It was Rice that wrote the memos saying that US oil companies need to cut production in order to raise the price of gasoline in the USA and it was Cheney that met with the oil company leaders behind closed doors to define the US Energy policy. Those are the two largest effects.

However, pumping up the Chinese economy while weakening ours, devaluing the dollar and destabilizing the middle east have some effect on gas prices. There's no way to deny that.

Originally Posted by Tommy

the border problem has been here for a long time way before bush

He did not cause this in any way. He did nothing about it until it became an election issue at the exact same time that the feds decided to stop producing the M3 report. He is not to blame for it all. I don't think that Clinton or Gore would have done much to prevent it either. I do think he's using it to draw attention away from the lack of the M3 report. It's in his friend's best interest and it's also the best way to print fake money for about 2 years. Isn't that how long he's in office?

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

If Sadaam was still in power he would have rolled his tanks into Iran. Unfortunately when Sadaam tried to open a dialogue (at least 3 times) through his brother's in Jordan sending letters to Dubya they went ignored. Peace could have been achieved through talk but Dubya's supporters want killings instead. The USA can't go into Iran without making things much worse here. They know it. Of course Dubya will either nuke them or at least start some shit right before he leaves office just like his daddy did.

Thats bullshit. Sadaam ignored ever countries attempt to get him to comply with the UN for 10 years. Of which Clinton did nothing but sit back and get blowjobs. It was only after someone came in office and said enough is enough did he want to talk. Wanting to talk was another bullshit smokescreen he was trying to blow up the worlds ass for no complying. Clinton was to busy fucking around on his wife for 8 years then managing this country. To busy showing up on Leno to blow sax and worry about 1 billion people just being rolled over into a communist state called China.

[Jim]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Thats bullshit. Sadaam ignored ever countries attempt to get him to comply with the UN for 10 years. Of which Clinton did nothing but sit back and get blowjobs. It was only after someone came in office and said enough is enough did he want to talk. Wanting to talk was another bullshit smokescreen he was trying to blow up the worlds ass for no complying. Clinton was to busy fucking around on his wife for 8 years then managing this country. To busy showing up on Leno to blow sax and worry about 1 billion people just being rolled over into a communist state called China.

Not sure if this whole post was just a typo or something else. First, The Communist Party of China (CPC) has led the PRC under a one-party system since the country's establishment in 1949. Next, Bill Clinton was on Leno in June of 92 while he was running for President. He was President from 93-2001. And as for the UN, the US needs to start to comply with the UN before we expect that from any other country.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Thats bullshit. Sadaam ignored ever countries attempt to get him to comply with the UN for 10 years. Of which Clinton did nothing but sit back and get blowjobs. It was only after someone came in office and said enough is enough did he want to talk. Wanting to talk was another bullshit smokescreen he was trying to blow up the worlds ass for no complying. Clinton was to busy fucking around on his wife for 8 years then managing this country. To busy showing up on Leno to blow sax and worry about 1 billion people just being rolled over into a communist state called China.

It's not bullshit. Those communications did occur.

My opinion is that the middle east could still be at peace. Your opinion is that we needed a war in Iraq. Does that mean that the facts I mention above are bullshit?

When bank robbers end up taking hostages do we go in and just start killing everyone or do we try to negotiate in order to save the lives of the innocent?

30,000, 50,000, 100,000, 1,000,000 lives. What is the number of innocent lives lost that makes the war a bad thing?

Clinton may have been sleeping around but he achieved some great things. What has Dubya achieved so far?