The Gop is gonna steal the nov elections again

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Tommy

and 30% is nothing

we end up paying all the medical bills
they use our roads, our police and all of our goverment services

in fact they cause our goverment services to spend more money

if they obyed the law and came here legally then they wouldnt have to worry about not getting their money back from social security

thats why I really like the Fair Tax act
http://www.fairtax.org

it removes federal withholding and replaces it with a federal sales tax

which means no more IRS, no more forms to file
employers wouldnt have to withhold anything

and this way all the illegals would have to pay federal taxes
every one of them would pay their fair share of taxes

Fair Tax looks good. I recently saw a movie on Yahoo about taxes. Someone took out a full page ad in the New York Times offering a reward of $50k to anyone that could show him the law saying we have to pay income tax. They had an IRS worker saying, "I thought I would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I would shut up the people that claim there is no law and pocket $50" She went on to explain that she looked and looked and could not find the law. A federal court finally ordered that the government did not have to show a law to collect income taxes

As for immigrants, recent numbers are at about 12 million. So, that would be about 3.6 million pay income taxes and more importantly, social security. The 3.6 million paying this more than makes up for them using our roads, medical services and such. Even if it didn't, they buy our products and do help the economy more than they hurt it. Again, from your boy Bloomberg, Tommy..."Although they broke the law by illegally crossing our borders . . . our city's economy would be a shell of itself had they not, and it would collapse if they were deported," he said. ``The same holds true for the nation.""

Illegal immigration is nothing new. Just as flag burning isn't anything new. Why do you suppose these have been such a big issues? I was glad to see the flag burning issue go down the tubes. And, I will be glad after November when the hoopla about illegal immigration goes away again. It seems to me that the government as a whole could really be working on things just a little more important.

Bottom line..., Bush is the worst President in History. He makes Hoover look like a genius and Nixon look like a boyscout. Because of his lies, thousands of US citizens and over 100,000 Iraqis have been killed. Because of this moronic war, he has made the military so thin, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill boots. The quality of the solders has not been this low since the end of the draft in 73. He thinks history will show him as a great President. I believe history will show him as committing the worst war crimes since Hitler.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by Jim

So, that would be about 3.6 million pay income taxes and more importantly, social security.

Isn't it possible that those workers would be replaced with US workers earning a higher wage and paying in a higher tax bracket? I can't imagine the illegals are doing work that no one really needs done.

[Tommy]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Isn't it possible that those workers would be replaced with US workers earning a higher wage and paying in a higher tax bracket? I can't imagine the illegals are doing work that no one really needs done.

and since those workers would be getting paid a fair wage
wouldn't they be spending more

wouldn't they take their kids to Disneyland and buy cars and living room furniture

wouldn't that help the economy also

AND they would pay federal taxes

instead of the illegals sending the money back home to Mexico to pay for beans