Retire the 800 Table Rule

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by MrYum

Wow Dave...to be blunt, that's probably not the best attitude to get people to work with you. As has been said many times, wide does not necessarily mean quality...any more than 800 wide means crappy.

As mentioned previously, I'm not ready to force 15% of my surfers to any appreciable side scroll just yet. I'd rather cater to 90%+ of my market, than 75%.

But of course, it's your call...just like it's a reviewers call whether or not they list your 1000 pixel wide sites. Guess only time will tell...but I for one will not be 'forced' into anything

Attitude,

I thought you said a small side scoll was ok. what does that mean ? 801 I misunderstood you is all. I never said 800 was crappy just 1000 allows for higher quality. Seems to me you have the attitude here more than me. My comments were in no way bad attitude they were well thought out and humorous. But maybe my humour was a little too dry,

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by DaveE

Attitude,

I thought you said a small side scoll was ok. what does that mean ? 801 I misunderstood you is all. I never said 800 was crappy just 1000 allows for higher quality. Seems to me you have the attitude here more than me. My comments were in no way bad attitude they were well thought out and humorous. But maybe my humour was a little too dry,

Indeed...and I stand by that...a 'little' side scroll will slide by, provided other standards are met. However, a 25% increase is not a 'little' side scroll...any more than 15% is a 'little' number of customers.

That said, and I alluded to this in Greenies thread regarding his new rules. This is by NO means saying I insist on being on pages with LOR. However, if a site is built for Greenies new standards and has his recip on it...I'll most likely ignore the side scroll issue.

We'll simply agree to disagree on the quality issue, as I see great quality sites every day built to 800 wide. And we'll also agree to disagree on the attitudes...I must have missed the humor in the tone of your post. If it was there, I missed it...no harm...no foul.

[virgohippy]

Wait a minute... MrYum had an attitude? |shocking|

I always thought Yum was so busy being a nice guy and getting laid he didn't have the energy to pretend mean!

[iMan]

I have to say that having to fit pages within 800 have been a little annoying to me. Since I work in 2560x1600 normally, 800 seems tiny...
so I was happy that Greenie decided to change this and I hope that more will do the same.

And hey, when those 16% surfers will have to scroll sideways all day long to see some titties, maybe they'll get a clue and upgrade their stuff.
I mean, porn is usually drives people to by new technology anyway, right

[johnnybg]

Originally Posted by iMan

And hey, when those 16% surfers will have to scroll sideways all day long to see some titties, maybe they'll get a clue and upgrade their stuff.
I mean, porn is usually drives people to by new technology anyway, right

Well, while it's nice to educate surfers about the quality of their equipment, I somehow don't think that they'll rush into the store to buy bigger screens for your sites.

What will happen, though, is that they'll click little "X" button on your site and go buy porn on other free site.

[virgohippy]

Originally Posted by johnnybg

What will happen, though, is that they'll click little "X" button on your site and go buy porn on other free site.

I was thinking the very same thing...

BUT, that doesn't mean a site designed for a wider screen won't sell better for those surfers who already run at higher resolutions.

For example, a good friend of mine who operates his computer from his couch and uses his big screen TV as a monitor and has a monthly budget for fun stuff.

Here's the big question: do you want your product to be optimized for as many of your surfers as possible, or do you want to focus on a smaller group?

[johnnybg]

Originally Posted by virgohippy

Here's the big question: do you want your product to be optimized for as many of your surfers as possible, or do you want to focus on a smaller group?

My group is already "small" so I really don't want to shrink it just because I have widescreen notebook.

If you can sell with 800px you will sell with 1000px and even 10000px for that matter.

Jim has a good point with percentages. Optimize for everyone.

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by MrYum

We'll simply agree to disagree on the quality issue, as I see great quality sites every day built to 800 wide. And we'll also agree to disagree on the attitudes...I must have missed the humor in the tone of your post. If it was there, I missed it...no harm...no foul.

I checked out your site in all resolutions up to 1280.
Looks great. Are you sure you'r not bigger than 800

I guess just coz I'm when I write something it does not always come across in text. After reading everything posted, some by people I know and respect I have conceded and my new table size for the new sites will be fixed at 750 I don't feel like wrapping my head aound auto resizing.

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by DaveE

I checked out your site in all resolutions up to 1280.
Looks great. Are you sure you'r not bigger than 800

I guess just coz I'm when I write something it does not always come across in text. After reading everything posted, some by people I know and respect I have conceded and my new table size for the new sites will be fixed at 750 I don't feel like wrapping my head aound auto resizing.

Thanks...the site was designed for 800, but keeping it looking acceptable at wider res was also a priority.

Very true, sometimes things do get lost in the written word...no worries here

The time will come for wider free sites, some say it has already arrived. Myself, I think it will be here within a year at the outside...though I could be wrong...it's happened before