XXXJay way to step up on Zango

[Greenguy]

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[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by Greenie

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Getting back on topic...


The ZANGO detect .htaccess is very useful tool.

I wanna measure the percentage of surfers that are actually infected that visit my sites.

I am turning down my traffic to AFF but send enough to reach the 55% payout.

I can't imagine anybody taking a hit of 20% off their recurring with AFF. It is just like giving money back to AFF.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Greenie

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Whoa! That's a lot of information to digest. Nothing like a little drama to crack loose a little info. Seems to me that from the merits or lack thereof of GFY and the personal attacks back and forth everyone was quick to change the subject both from who the ones who were/are benefitting from all the shaving schemes and zango bullshit AND who is defending it as being ok or not that bad.

This is totally fucked! Period!

We've long suspected that something was up with AFF on a number of levels. But to see this level of conspiracy and the players we know knew something about it and were benefitting shouldn't be let off the hook so easily! Nobody's got that great of porn or that much traffic or is that legendary to be able to just grin and say Ooops and everybody is understanding!

This is all a really bad deal and is pissing alot of surfers off too don't forget and maybe getting the ire of a legislator somewhere. The people associated with all of this should be put on a watch list.

[Greenguy]

Can we stop fighting until after the contest? I'm too busy using the "username" trick on people with 6 posts

[Greenguy]

I think that EVERYONE should stop bashing EVERYONE ELSE because of their opinions.

Here's the bottom line when it comes to GFY - let's pretend you like roses. Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Enough of this GFY shit - let's get back on track - stay the course!

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I think that EVERYONE should stop bashing EVERYONE ELSE because of their opinions.

Here's the bottom line when it comes to GFY - let's pretend you like roses. Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Enough of this GFY shit - let's get back on track - stay the course!

This thread has me wondering two things
1, does XXXJay still think Lars is a standup guy now that he knows he's been Zangoed.
2, will that AFF class action law suit that Gonzo posted about put AFF out of business

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by T Pat

This thread has me wondering two things
1, does XXXJay still think Lars is a standup guy now that he knows he's been Zangoed.
2, will that AFF class action law suit that Gonzo posted about put AFF out of business

1. I dont care what jay thinks. I form my on conclusions and I can afford my own drinks.

2. Piss off the people that promote/advertise your product and the people that potentially buy it and your out of business. Some people think its quite ethical to seed / populate a dating board with bogus profiles.

I dont and apparently the consumer doesnt.

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

It is just like an adult website promising weekly updates, but what they really do is rotate content.

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

I can't resist picking up on this, even though it means drifting off-topic again...

I cannot think of any other industry which sells so much crap. Make your own list or go check out a decent review site and try to come up with more than 50 sites on which you might be ready to spend your own money. Okay, okay, so you are easily pleased and managed to find 100 but now, since PPS is far and away the most popular payment model, delete all the revshare-only sites from that list. Even allowing for a wide variety of tastes, I can almost guarantee you will likely be left with 10-20 sites.

Now think about the thousands of sites that collectively we promote...

Of course we should be selling what customers want, but the reality is that even if common sense one day dawned on us all, we couldn't: imagine what our earnings would look like if thousands of affiliates were all trying to promote the same handful of sites.

Answer: sponsors need to wake up too and start building better sites. Yes in theory. But in the extremely unlikely event that there were a widespread desire to switch away from tactics designed for the 1990's, could it happen? Whether your tastes run to Karups PC or MET-Art, where would we find the army of above-average photographers that it would take? And if it is already amazing (it is to me anyway) that so many more-or-less good looking girls will get naked and have sex in front of a camera, imagine how many we would need if more sites actually delivered what they promise.

Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by jayeff

I can't resist picking up on this, even though it means drifting off-topic again...

I cannot think of any other industry which sells so much crap. Make your own list or go check out a decent review site and try to come up with more than 50 sites on which you might be ready to spend your own money. Okay, okay, so you are easily pleased and managed to find 100 but now, since PPS is far and away the most popular payment model, delete all the revshare-only sites from that list. Even allowing for a wide variety of tastes, I can almost guarantee you will likely be left with 10-20 sites.

Now think about the thousands of sites that collectively we promote...

Of course we should be selling what customers want, but the reality is that even if common sense one day dawned on us all, we couldn't: imagine what our earnings would look like if thousands of affiliates were all trying to promote the same handful of sites.

Answer: sponsors need to wake up too and start building better sites. Yes in theory. But in the extremely unlikely event that there were a widespread desire to switch away from tactics designed for the 1990's, could it happen? Whether your tastes run to Karups PC or MET-Art, where would we find the army of above-average photographers that it would take? And if it is already amazing (it is to me anyway) that so many more-or-less good looking girls will get naked and have sex in front of a camera, imagine how many we would need if more sites actually delivered what they promise.

Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

Nice post

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by jayeff

...Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

There's always been people that care about their work - whether it's running a paysite or a link list or submitting galleries. And there's always been people that are in this for the quick buck.

The bottom line, from the point of view of a webmaster that promotes paysites, is that you have to keep an eye on what's converting as well as what's retaining & base where you send your traffic on that.

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Take it from the redneck. Either way you better watch your step.

[GenXer]

Yep Emanuelle hit the nail on the head. Every industry has good, bad and ugly. No different than anything else

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by GenXer

Yep Emanuelle hit the nail on the head. Every industry has good, bad and ugly. No different than anything else

Damn are you the one that hacked my site?