XXXJay way to step up on Zango

[Greenguy]

I think that EVERYONE should stop bashing EVERYONE ELSE because of their opinions.

Here's the bottom line when it comes to GFY - let's pretend you like roses. Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Enough of this GFY shit - let's get back on track - stay the course!

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I think that EVERYONE should stop bashing EVERYONE ELSE because of their opinions.

Here's the bottom line when it comes to GFY - let's pretend you like roses. Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Enough of this GFY shit - let's get back on track - stay the course!

This thread has me wondering two things
1, does XXXJay still think Lars is a standup guy now that he knows he's been Zangoed.
2, will that AFF class action law suit that Gonzo posted about put AFF out of business

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by T Pat

This thread has me wondering two things
1, does XXXJay still think Lars is a standup guy now that he knows he's been Zangoed.
2, will that AFF class action law suit that Gonzo posted about put AFF out of business

1. I dont care what jay thinks. I form my on conclusions and I can afford my own drinks.

2. Piss off the people that promote/advertise your product and the people that potentially buy it and your out of business. Some people think its quite ethical to seed / populate a dating board with bogus profiles.

I dont and apparently the consumer doesnt.

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

It is just like an adult website promising weekly updates, but what they really do is rotate content.

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Whats wrong with giving a customer what they paid for when it comes to our business?

I can't resist picking up on this, even though it means drifting off-topic again...

I cannot think of any other industry which sells so much crap. Make your own list or go check out a decent review site and try to come up with more than 50 sites on which you might be ready to spend your own money. Okay, okay, so you are easily pleased and managed to find 100 but now, since PPS is far and away the most popular payment model, delete all the revshare-only sites from that list. Even allowing for a wide variety of tastes, I can almost guarantee you will likely be left with 10-20 sites.

Now think about the thousands of sites that collectively we promote...

Of course we should be selling what customers want, but the reality is that even if common sense one day dawned on us all, we couldn't: imagine what our earnings would look like if thousands of affiliates were all trying to promote the same handful of sites.

Answer: sponsors need to wake up too and start building better sites. Yes in theory. But in the extremely unlikely event that there were a widespread desire to switch away from tactics designed for the 1990's, could it happen? Whether your tastes run to Karups PC or MET-Art, where would we find the army of above-average photographers that it would take? And if it is already amazing (it is to me anyway) that so many more-or-less good looking girls will get naked and have sex in front of a camera, imagine how many we would need if more sites actually delivered what they promise.

Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by jayeff

I can't resist picking up on this, even though it means drifting off-topic again...

I cannot think of any other industry which sells so much crap. Make your own list or go check out a decent review site and try to come up with more than 50 sites on which you might be ready to spend your own money. Okay, okay, so you are easily pleased and managed to find 100 but now, since PPS is far and away the most popular payment model, delete all the revshare-only sites from that list. Even allowing for a wide variety of tastes, I can almost guarantee you will likely be left with 10-20 sites.

Now think about the thousands of sites that collectively we promote...

Of course we should be selling what customers want, but the reality is that even if common sense one day dawned on us all, we couldn't: imagine what our earnings would look like if thousands of affiliates were all trying to promote the same handful of sites.

Answer: sponsors need to wake up too and start building better sites. Yes in theory. But in the extremely unlikely event that there were a widespread desire to switch away from tactics designed for the 1990's, could it happen? Whether your tastes run to Karups PC or MET-Art, where would we find the army of above-average photographers that it would take? And if it is already amazing (it is to me anyway) that so many more-or-less good looking girls will get naked and have sex in front of a camera, imagine how many we would need if more sites actually delivered what they promise.

Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

Nice post

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by jayeff

...Online porn could improve a lot before it runs into such barriers and any improvement will help us earn more money. But I have a suspicion that even 10 years from now, the overall picture will not have changed very dramatically.

There's always been people that care about their work - whether it's running a paysite or a link list or submitting galleries. And there's always been people that are in this for the quick buck.

The bottom line, from the point of view of a webmaster that promotes paysites, is that you have to keep an eye on what's converting as well as what's retaining & base where you send your traffic on that.

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by Greenie

There's always been people that care about their work - whether it's running a paysite or a link list or submitting galleries. And there's always been people that are in this for the quick buck.

I think that this applies to every industry, or facet of our lives. There are dedicated people, there are people who give the bare minimum of effort possible, there are those constantly looking for shortcuts, and there is everything in between.

[docholly]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I think that this applies to every industry, or facet of our lives. There are dedicated people, there are people who give the bare minimum of effort possible, there are those constantly looking for shortcuts, and there is everything in between.

AMEN.. it's the difference between getting your order right or getting fucked in the drive thru.

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Would you walk thru a field of cow shit to pick the 3 or 4 roses that are growing there? Or would you go to a rose field & be surrounded by roses with a little cow shit thrown in for fertilizer?

Take it from the redneck. Either way you better watch your step.