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Old 2006-11-21, 07:41 PM   #1
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I like the idea, as long as there is some kind of limit on the length of video clips (5 minutes?) and the people running it are responsible about copyrighted content.

BTW I read above someone works with pornotube here, how long does it take for your video to upload? I uploaded a 50 second trailer the other night and its still not showing up my account id is beaverbob..

I am interested to see if this could be a productive source of traffic. I wouldn't expect it to take the place of other valuable traffic sources such as linklists, tgps, blogs, etc... but my feeling is the more places you can get traffic, the better.
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Old 2006-11-21, 08:24 PM   #2
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I uploaded a 50 second trailer the other night and its still not showing up my account id is beaverbob..

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that happens now and then, they are still working on it and it gets like 50+ million visits a day so you just have to post again
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Old 2006-11-22, 12:19 AM   #3
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it gets like 50+ million visits a day
Soon, soon!

We aren't quite that high yet.. close, but not quite
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Old 2006-11-22, 12:42 AM   #4
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...Please don't put words in my mouth. What I said was, paraphrasing, if copyrighted content is found and reported we remove it. If a user reports it, we look, and we take it down. And believe me, people report everything. We get so many false positives on content it takes up about 6 hours every day to go through the reports....
Don't take this the wrong way, but when you allow anyone with a valid email address to upload content to your servers as well as police the files on your server, you don't really have the right to complain that it eats up a lot of time.

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....Also, adult webmaster have to know CSS like their top of their dicks...
I've been a webmaster for 10+_ years & the 1st time I even put css on a site was a couple months ago - and I hate it & I'm probably going to stop using it.

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Branding is so important, I can't believe people can't see this.

Brand your product, upload it to PornoTube and repeat....
The argument here isn't the importance of branding.

And, I don't know if you've looked around too much, but a majority of the people that post on this board do not have their own content to brand & upload anyplace.

Go re-read my 4th post: "This is going to be a good discussion...." & hopefully that'll explain what the issue is.
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Old 2006-11-22, 10:52 AM   #5
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Don't take this the wrong way, but when you allow anyone with a valid email address to upload content to your servers as well as police the files on your server, you don't really have the right to complain that it eats up a lot of time.
No complaints at all! It's just part of doing business. Sorry it came off as a whine
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Old 2006-11-22, 12:16 AM   #6
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I like the idea, as long as there is some kind of limit on the length of video clips (5 minutes?) and the people running it are responsible about copyrighted content.

BTW I read above someone works with pornotube here, how long does it take for your video to upload? I uploaded a 50 second trailer the other night and its still not showing up my account id is beaverbob..

I am interested to see if this could be a productive source of traffic. I wouldn't expect it to take the place of other valuable traffic sources such as linklists, tgps, blogs, etc... but my feeling is the more places you can get traffic, the better.
Is this it? http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=73347

I'm not in a position to access the databases right now so I can't check on the uplaod date. I'm guessing you reuploaded it.

There are still some issues with uploads when the site is getting really hammered. The conversion process is a bit fragile yet, and needs to be reworked to make it more bulletproof.

We're adding more feedback, also. Right now, we have an e-mail message that we send to our techies when something fails. When we get the time to reformat it for users we'll turn that on. Right now it's all numbers and codes that no one but the programmers could ever decipher.
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Old 2006-11-22, 08:13 AM   #7
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Is this it? http://www.pornotube.com/media.php?m=73347

I'm not in a position to access the databases right now so I can't check on the uplaod date. I'm guessing you reuploaded it.

There are still some issues with uploads when the site is getting really hammered. The conversion process is a bit fragile yet, and needs to be reworked to make it more bulletproof.

We're adding more feedback, also. Right now, we have an e-mail message that we send to our techies when something fails. When we get the time to reformat it for users we'll turn that on. Right now it's all numbers and codes that no one but the programmers could ever decipher.
yes thats it, thank you

right on.. so instead of putting that trailer on my server and eating up my bandwidth, i could just embed that on my blog?

either way, i'm interested to see what happens with this site.
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Old 2006-11-21, 11:27 PM   #8
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Someone please fill me in, what the crap is PornoTube?
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Someone please fill me in, what the crap is PornoTube?
its basically a clone of the popular website YouTube, but obviously meant for porn. Incidently, I believe youtube.com was just sold to google for 1.4 billion dollars.

http://www.pornotube.com
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Old 2006-11-22, 01:20 AM   #10
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Im sure as a link list owner you will agree that the thumbbed TGPs were bad for link lists.
AdultBuffet was bad for Links Lists.

ThumbTGPs were bad for just about everybody. Especially when people decided it was better to have a fancy schmancy design with lots of big thumbs than any banners or advertising. Watch the counter spin, baby!

Senator_X - branding is eventually worth fuck all if it doesn't convert into traffic and sales. Don't believ all the hype :-)

fusionx - Good luck with it. It's a fine line you'e walking. I wonder if Web2.0 may be about to explode into law suits etc (Universal vs MYSpace etc etc). In the meantime, mind if I borrow AEBN's content library? I'll remove it if it's found and reported. ;-))))
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Old 2006-11-22, 03:01 AM   #11
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....In the meantime, mind if I borrow AEBN's content library? I'll remove it if it's found and reported. ;-))))
DING DING DING DING, give the man a Kewpie Doll. That's the whole discussion in a nutshell.
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Old 2006-11-22, 10:00 AM   #12
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DING DING DING DING, give the man a Kewpie Doll. That's the whole discussion in a nutshell.
Just a minor point. That content isnt AEBN's in most cases. Its the studios.
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Old 2006-11-22, 10:51 AM   #13
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fusionx - Good luck with it. It's a fine line you'e walking. I wonder if Web2.0 may be about to explode into law suits etc (Universal vs MYSpace etc etc). In the meantime, mind if I borrow AEBN's content library? I'll remove it if it's found and reported. ;-))))
Feel free! We make a ton of stuff available, and you can give all your surfers 30 free minutes
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Old 2006-11-22, 06:08 AM   #14
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Its good if you want to embed some movie clips into your blog.
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Old 2006-11-22, 10:53 PM   #15
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I just see adult variants of youtube as natural progression. Over the past few years, newer business models has always bumped the one before it down the ladder.

I say adapt and get in on the ground level. So you have an advantage for when it becomes the norm.

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Old 2006-11-23, 02:03 AM   #16
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I just see adult variants of youtube as natural progression. Over the past few years, newer business models has always bumped the one before it down the ladder.

I say adapt and get in on the ground level. So you have an advantage for when it becomes the norm.

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I just can't submit to linklist, tgps or dumps for traffic. I have to generate traffic and execute.

Some people can lay back and collect big fat checks because they were first.

Trust me they will evolve.
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Old 2006-11-23, 09:31 AM   #17
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...Some people can lay back and collect big fat checks because they were first...
Would you like to direct that at anyone in particular or was it just a general statement?
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Old 2006-11-23, 02:27 PM   #18
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Would you like to direct that at anyone in particular or was it just a general statement?
Intented for general consumption.


Pornotube has a model already established and proving to produce traffic.
Is PornoTube profitable? <---That is another discussion.
Does it have traffic? Yes.

A more savvy webmaster can exploit(in the good way) PornoTube's traffic for their own websites.
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Old 2006-11-23, 07:51 PM   #19
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...A more savvy webmaster can exploit(in the good way) PornoTube's traffic for their own websites.
How so?
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Old 2006-11-23, 10:48 PM   #20
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Intented for general consumption.


Pornotube has a model already established and proving to produce traffic.
Is PornoTube profitable? <---That is another discussion.
Does it have traffic? Yes.

A more savvy webmaster can exploit(in the good way) PornoTube's traffic for their own websites.

Do you work in Charlotte in a role Im unaware of?
Your making a lot of uninformed assumtions here.
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I've been wondering for some time why the owners of linklists, tgps and similar types of sites have not adapted their marketing plans to include newer opportunities. It wouldn't be a huge undertaking to comission a video clip or assemble galleries/ freesites that promote their link list as a whole, rather than the individual sponsors. Think of it like a commercial... "At ____.com you'll find....." You could get really creative with this stuff, and not be limited by how an individual paysite or sponsor needs to be represented. The galleries/ freesites could be submitted or traded- probably more effective than a 120x60 recip, and the clips could be used in places such as pornotube or peer-to-peer.
Just like beer commercials, they don't even need to show the product, but maybe reflect an attitude. The possibilities are endless.
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... or assemble galleries/ freesites that promote their link list as a whole, rather than the individual sponsors. Think of it like a commercial... "At ____.com you'll find....." You could get really creative with this stuff, and not be limited by how an individual paysite or sponsor needs to be represented. The galleries/ freesites could be submitted or traded- probably more effective than a 120x60 recip...
I've seen some free sites that were nothing but advertisements for a link list & I've seen a lot of them that have something along the line of "This site & many others like it can be found at...."
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OK, in keeping with the can't beat'em, join'em line of thought. No one has asked the sixty-four thousand dollar question.

How well does this traffic convert if you are successful at diverting some of it to your LL or TGP? Just how much time and effort is justified?
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Old 2006-11-24, 01:33 AM   #24
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OK, in keeping with the can't beat'em, join'em line of thought. No one has asked the sixty-four thousand dollar question.

How well does this traffic convert if you are successful at diverting some of it to your LL or TGP? Just how much time and effort is justified?
I can answer that question. Weve seen great conversion running clips that go directly to Squirting Carly at Fat Fucking Cash.

And if you have a unique or eye cathicng title or video clip I can pump traffic to any free site that Ive had by putting the url in a few clips.
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OK, in keeping with the can't beat'em, join'em line of thought. No one has asked the sixty-four thousand dollar question.

How well does this traffic convert if you are successful at diverting some of it to your LL or TGP? Just how much time and effort is justified?
For a sponsor you can't get any more targeted traffic that type in traffic. It converts the best. Hands down.

Not to sure if you will get the same conversions from people typing into a linklist or tgp but it still has to be pretty good.

If I were an affiliate I would buy a domain name for each sponsor and redirect that domain right to the sponsor tour on it's own campaign.

You see this method being utilized a lot with USENET and P2P
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