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[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Help me understand why you think this is not good for the industry?

It's not that it's bad for the industry, but it is bad for general webmasters that make a living with tgps & link lists & free sites & galleries, as it does teach the surfer that they can get a shitload of free movies at one site.

It's sorta like a legit fusker, if that makes sense.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Greenie

It's not that it's bad for the industry, but it is bad for general webmasters that make a living with tgps & link lists & free sites & galleries, as it does teach the surfer that they can get a shitload of free movies at one site.

It's sorta like a legit fusker, if that makes sense.

Im sure as a link list owner you will agree that the thumbbed TGPs were bad for link lists. Bit Torrent Sites are the bane of TGPs.

The web evolves at the expense of those who dont seize change.

We've taught the surfer that they can get free porn for many years now. Remember the old addage we all used to chant? Free sites are to tease...pay sites to please.

Now you can see a myraid of freebies within tours that just a few years ago didnt give away as much as an exposed nipple.

[Greenguy]

This is going to be a good discussion

Originally Posted by GonZo

Im sure as a link list owner you will agree that the thumbbed TGPs were bad for link lists. Bit Torrent Sites are the bane of TGPs....

I don't think you can compare those 2.

1st off, I don't think Thumb TGP's were bad for Link Lists - I actually like them, but they do bring up a shitload of 2257 questions (which is probably why I don't have one)

Bit Torrent (and any P2P service) is bad for "webmasters" just like PornoTube is bad for "webmasters" because it really does teach the surfer that you can get content (and a lot of it) for free all at once place.

I'd also throw Guba into this as well, because there are a lot of similarities.

And don't get me wrong - as soon as YouTube became popular, everyone knew there was going to be a porn version - but like these other sites/programs, there's a lot of questions about 2257 & copyrights & surfer submitted content (since the 1st script that allowed you to post content to a website, there's always been that fear of illegal material being posted) And yes, all of those things are really none of my business, because I don't own the company nor do I have any content to worry aobut as far as copyrights.

I assume that most sponsors won't care that their content is on there, because it's free advertising & they'll get sales from it, which is their bottom line.

My concern - and I think the concern of most of the people on this board - is that this is another thing that tgp/linklist & gallery/freesite webmasters have to compete with - and these sites/programs are on a level right off the bat that makes it very hard to compete with.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Greenie

This is going to be a good discussion

I don't think you can compare those 2.

1st off, I don't think Thumb TGP's were bad for Link Lists - I actually like them, but they do bring up a shitload of 2257 questions (which is probably why I don't have one)

Bit Torrent (and any P2P service) is bad for "webmasters" just like PornoTube is bad for "webmasters" because it really does teach the surfer that you can get content (and a lot of it) for free all at once place.

I'd also throw Guba into this as well, because there are a lot of similarities.

And don't get me wrong - as soon as YouTube became popular, everyone knew there was going to be a porn version - but like these other sites/programs, there's a lot of questions about 2257 & copyrights & surfer submitted content (since the 1st script that allowed you to post content to a website, there's always been that fear of illegal material being posted) And yes, all of those things are really none of my business, because I don't own the company nor do I have any content to worry aobut as far as copyrights.

I assume that most sponsors won't care that their content is on there, because it's free advertising & they'll get sales from it, which is their bottom line.

My concern - and I think the concern of most of the people on this board - is that this is another thing that tgp/linklist & gallery/freesite webmasters have to compete with - and these sites/programs are on a level right off the bat that makes it very hard to compete with.

Excellent debate.
Actually gonzo.com was a linklist a long time ago. I jumped to tgps and then thumbed TGPs as it was a quick traffic builder.

2257 issues are an entire different debate all together.

Bottomline is its hard to compete as a true affiliate based webmaster.
Early wisdom used to say why build something of my own when I acn make more money selling others with a fraction of the effort?

Its hell of a lot more effort now and people got greedy with all the stealing tricks and of course this shit with Zango and AFF.

This shit has been going on a long time before with sextracker ... Newton did and excellent interview a while back on it.

Ill do some digging for it but I think you can still see some of this from this quiery. As I recall sextracker was loading a trojan that replaced affilaite codes and cookies with their own. As you can see this ended bad..
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/searc...searchid=27418

Ill see if I can find the interview.

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Excellent debate.
Actually gonzo.com was a linklist a long time ago. I jumped to tgps and then thumbed TGPs as it was a quick traffic builder.

2257 issues are an entire different debate all together.

Bottomline is its hard to compete as a true affiliate based webmaster.
Early wisdom used to say why build something of my own when I acn make more money selling others with a fraction of the effort?

Its hell of a lot more effort now and people got greedy with all the stealing tricks and of course this shit with Zango and AFF.

This shit has been going on a long time before with sextracker ... Newton did and excellent interview a while back on it.

Ill do some digging for it but I think you can still see some of this from this quiery. As I recall sextracker was loading a trojan that replaced affilaite codes and cookies with their own. As you can see this ended bad..
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/searc...searchid=27418

Ill see if I can find the interview.

Sextracker was a sore issue for awhile but as you can see "the keep me happy" money flowed into the right place.

ZANGO money is keeping a lot of high-end webmasters happy too.

An adult webmaster today has to own a TGP, LinkList, Blogs, Thousand of AVS satelites, thousands of galleries and very good relationships with the owners of the affiliate programs.

The good relationships with affiliate owners get you in on first new products. Basically, you beta test their product and cash in fast.

Also, adult webmaster have to know CSS like their top of their dicks.

Evolve or die.