Have you ever been on a diet?

ecchi · 2007-01-27, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry

If you have issues with sugar, like I do, caffeine can cause your sugar to yo-yo more than normal.

I have a bigger sugar problem if I give up caffeine. After about 48 hours without it I am so depressed and pissed off that I don't care about anything, even my health. So I end up eating candy bars like I am trying to kill myself.

RedCherry · 2007-01-27, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ecchi

I have a bigger sugar problem if I give up caffeine. After about 48 hours without it I am so depressed and pissed off that I don't care about anything, even my health. So I end up eating candy bars like I am trying to kill myself.

LOL. I had to cut down to 1 cup a day, and do that for about a month, then stop. I truthfully haven't had any side effect of not drinking it this time, other than a little tiredness which I found was low vit B levels from being a vegetarian. Once I started taking extra B, that went away.

The good thing after quitting is I don't get as many mood swings, and I don't get my heart feeling like it is going to jump out of my chest anymore.

RedCherry · 2007-01-27, 12:33 PM

I agree alot with UW. One of the reasons I do that ultrametabolism. It isn't a diet, just a way of eating healthier. I've done diets, and they may work in the short run, but not in a long haul.

My dr. keeps telling me it is a matter of more exercise and watching what you eat. As you get older, it gets harder, because your metabolism slows down.

The only reason I joined Curves (a gym for women) is because it gets me out of the house for an hour, and motivates me because of the success stories I'm surrounded by. Also all the machines are built smaller scale for women.

Unless it is pouring rain, I always park about as far away from the entrance to stores as I can get and still be in the parking lot. And try to walk some and ride my bike a bit each week. Every little bit of extra movement helps.

I like what you said on portions UW that is my problem, I like a LOT of food. So I try to bulk up with a LOT of salad greens. Makes it look like I'm eating a lot yet it is only about 30 calories.

And bagged sweet peas or chinese peas are good snacks too, very crunchy.

ecchi · 2007-01-27, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry

I truthfully haven't had any side effect of not drinking it this time, other than a little tiredness

You are so lucky, I have twice tried to give up, and twice stayed a few days with someone who doesn't believe in caffeine, so won't serve drinks containing it. About 24 hours after going without I get a migraine to end all migraines, and a further 24 hours after that I get depressed, ratty, argumentative, and become a complete uncaring bastard. On the only occasion I did not 'giving up at giving up' at that point I eventually ended up sitting on the floor in the corner crying because the shirt I had just tried to iron was dirty, no one could console me and I genuinely believed that the shirt being dirty was the worst possible thing to ever have happened to anyone in the world.

Since then, for my own health, and for the good of mankind, I have never tried to give up (and when I stay with anyone I always pack a jar of instant coffee in my wash bag just in case).

In my own defence; Robert Downey Jr used to be an alcoholic and a junky. He has since 'gone clean' but in an interview said that giving up coffee was much harder than giving up alcohol or hard drugs, and he described the side effects of giving up coffee as "loosing the will or any desire to live". Although he is now off coffee, he still drinks tea which has some caffeine in it.

RedCherry · 2007-01-27, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ecchi

Since then, for my own health, and for the good of mankind, I have never tried to give up (and when I stay with anyone I always pack a jar of instant coffee in my wash bag just in case).

Believe me, I've tried to give it up before, with the same results you described. It was horrible. But I went from drinking a pot (or 2) a day to zero. This time, I tapered off. I have an irregular heart beat that is aggravated by caffeine. So I started cutting down how much I drank a little at a time, until I was on 1 cup a day for a long time. That worked.

I have also found that, if I watch my sugar/carb intake, wow my mood swings dissapear. If I eat too much sugar more than 1x in a day, I'm horribly depressed. Might want to check if that isn't part of your problem.

Finally, there is a brain chemical abnomality I read about (wish I could remember) that some people addicted to caffeine are actually treating with caffeine. You might be one of those people, and might be why you can't withdraw off it.

ecchi · 2007-01-27, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedCherry

I have also found that, if I watch my sugar/carb intake, wow my mood swings dissapear. If I eat too much sugar more than 1x in a day, I'm horribly depressed. Might want to check if that isn't part of your problem.

I am diabetic so I monitor my blood sugar level carefully. But, yes, one of the early indications that my blood sugar level has got too high is that I get ratty and unpleasant to be around.

sue-fl · 2007-01-27, 01:18 PM

UW your advice was great

Drinking lot's of water and walking my dog for 30 minutes a day has kept me at the size I like to be.

And don't eat anything after 8pm at night!

ecchi · 2007-01-27, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sue-fl

Drinking lot's of water

Good advice provided it is tap water. Water helps you keep healthy, loose weight, and not feel hungry. But some of the minerals in bottled water tend to lead to your body retaining the water, which makes you look fat. Tap water does not usually have these minerals (the regulations in both the US and UK are much stricter on what can be in tap water than they are on bottled water).

SheepGuy · 2007-01-27, 01:47 PM

Eating at night and drinking gallons of milk with every meal made me fat. I stopped eating at night and at first I had a hard time sleeping because of the taste of a days worth of cigarettes in my mouth, so I started gargling with mouthwash before bed and slept well. I quit milk for everything except cereal and drank gallons of water instead. I also completely cut out anything that was fried and limited myself to pizza once a month. I stopped drinking bourbon and rum and cut back to 6-8 beers a day.

Just doing that I lost 128 pounds over about 3 years and dropped to 160 pounds. I'm now up to 195 again because I've started eating before bed. I'll cut that out and drop to 175 by summer, which is about what I should weigh.

Musson · 2007-02-06, 02:22 PM

Folks, diet is death.|shocking| No, really. I was keeping to a diet one day. But it didn't help. I lost some weight. But then... I gain 10 pound more.

Mr Exotic · 2007-01-27, 01:05 PM

I was always a bigger guy, even growing up as a kid I remember trying to lose weight as early as elementary school. In high school I eventually became steady at around 260-270 pounds. I played basketball all the time, and played organized baseball until I was 17. Since I was so active I wasnt overly huge but 270 pounds for a 6'1 guy is still a lot of extra poundage. Then when I quit playing sports I ballooned up like a fucking whale. I eventually got up to 335. I started playing in softball leagues 3 years ago but was still eating badly and just getting some exercise in I dropped down to 300. Part of it was frustration of not being able to play ball like I used to and the other part of it was I just got sick and tired of feeling like shit, so I decided I was gonna get serious about losing weight.

After trying too many different things to even remeber I kinda came up with my own diet, along with taking 75 mg of epederine first thing in the morning along with a pot of coffee. Yeah alot of people say ephederine and caffeine are bad for you, but I guess you gotta figure how fat you are (in my case I was becoming morbidly obese) and if losing weight is worth the epederine.

First thing when I wake up is take 75mg of ephederine (most say your only suppose to take 25mg at a time 3 times a day, but if I take any past noon I cannot sleep at all, I have ended up staying awake for 4 days straight before), along with 600 mg of caffeine pills, I have since replaced that with drinking a pot of coffee. Then the hardest part is I didnt eat a thing until around 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening. I ate whatever I wanted and quite a bit of it, just not Thanks Giving Dinner portions

That one meal is all I ate all day long, so I made sure I satisfied my hunger. After about a year of sticking to that 90% of the time I was down to 205 pounds.

Yeah some people say epederine, caffeine, only eating once a day is bad for you, but I know of all the things I tried this is the only one I could get to work. My blood pressure which was thru the roof is fine now, (not sure about my cholestorol, but I dont worry about it because I dont eat a whole lot of meat). I feel awesome, I really feel like a whole new person and pretty much my whole life is completely different just from having 1000x the energy.

Now that I am in my happy weight area, seems like when I hit 203 my body screams feed me non stop. What I do to maintain is still take my ephederine and drink my coffee but I let myself eat twice a day now, usually around 1 or 2 pm, and eat again around 7 or 8 at night. I try not to eat too much but sometimes I do. If I catch myself getting over 212 I go back to the above until I get back down to the 205 area.

Probably not the best or healthiest method but that is exactly what I did and it worked for me.

2007-01-27, 12:33 PM	#3
RedCherry Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Middle of the Desert, Pahrump, NV Posts: 3,187	I agree alot with UW. One of the reasons I do that ultrametabolism. It isn't a diet, just a way of eating healthier. I've done diets, and they may work in the short run, but not in a long haul. My dr. keeps telling me it is a matter of more exercise and watching what you eat. As you get older, it gets harder, because your metabolism slows down. The only reason I joined Curves (a gym for women) is because it gets me out of the house for an hour, and motivates me because of the success stories I'm surrounded by. Also all the machines are built smaller scale for women. Unless it is pouring rain, I always park about as far away from the entrance to stores as I can get and still be in the parking lot. And try to walk some and ride my bike a bit each week. Every little bit of extra movement helps. I like what you said on portions UW that is my problem, I like a LOT of food. So I try to bulk up with a LOT of salad greens. Makes it look like I'm eating a lot yet it is only about 30 calories. And bagged sweet peas or chinese peas are good snacks too, very crunchy. __________________ Our 3D Comics and Props on Renderotica

2007-01-27, 01:47 PM	#9
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Eating at night and drinking gallons of milk with every meal made me fat. I stopped eating at night and at first I had a hard time sleeping because of the taste of a days worth of cigarettes in my mouth, so I started gargling with mouthwash before bed and slept well. I quit milk for everything except cereal and drank gallons of water instead. I also completely cut out anything that was fried and limited myself to pizza once a month. I stopped drinking bourbon and rum and cut back to 6-8 beers a day. Just doing that I lost 128 pounds over about 3 years and dropped to 160 pounds. I'm now up to 195 again because I've started eating before bed. I'll cut that out and drop to 175 by summer, which is about what I should weigh. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-01-27, 01:05 PM	#11
Mr Exotic rifuckingdiculous Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cornfield in Indiana Posts: 532	I was always a bigger guy, even growing up as a kid I remember trying to lose weight as early as elementary school. In high school I eventually became steady at around 260-270 pounds. I played basketball all the time, and played organized baseball until I was 17. Since I was so active I wasnt overly huge but 270 pounds for a 6'1 guy is still a lot of extra poundage. Then when I quit playing sports I ballooned up like a fucking whale. I eventually got up to 335. I started playing in softball leagues 3 years ago but was still eating badly and just getting some exercise in I dropped down to 300. Part of it was frustration of not being able to play ball like I used to and the other part of it was I just got sick and tired of feeling like shit, so I decided I was gonna get serious about losing weight. After trying too many different things to even remeber I kinda came up with my own diet, along with taking 75 mg of epederine first thing in the morning along with a pot of coffee. Yeah alot of people say ephederine and caffeine are bad for you, but I guess you gotta figure how fat you are (in my case I was becoming morbidly obese) and if losing weight is worth the epederine. First thing when I wake up is take 75mg of ephederine (most say your only suppose to take 25mg at a time 3 times a day, but if I take any past noon I cannot sleep at all, I have ended up staying awake for 4 days straight before), along with 600 mg of caffeine pills, I have since replaced that with drinking a pot of coffee. Then the hardest part is I didnt eat a thing until around 5 or 6 o'clock in the evening. I ate whatever I wanted and quite a bit of it, just not Thanks Giving Dinner portions That one meal is all I ate all day long, so I made sure I satisfied my hunger. After about a year of sticking to that 90% of the time I was down to 205 pounds. Yeah some people say epederine, caffeine, only eating once a day is bad for you, but I know of all the things I tried this is the only one I could get to work. My blood pressure which was thru the roof is fine now, (not sure about my cholestorol, but I dont worry about it because I dont eat a whole lot of meat). I feel awesome, I really feel like a whole new person and pretty much my whole life is completely different just from having 1000x the energy. Now that I am in my happy weight area, seems like when I hit 203 my body screams feed me non stop. What I do to maintain is still take my ephederine and drink my coffee but I let myself eat twice a day now, usually around 1 or 2 pm, and eat again around 7 or 8 at night. I try not to eat too much but sometimes I do. If I catch myself getting over 212 I go back to the above until I get back down to the 205 area. Probably not the best or healthiest method but that is exactly what I did and it worked for me. __________________ Submit Free Sites/Galleries

2007-01-27, 01:18 PM	#7
sue-fl You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,837	UW your advice was great Drinking lot's of water and walking my dog for 30 minutes a day has kept me at the size I like to be. And don't eat anything after 8pm at night!

2007-02-06, 02:22 PM	#10
Musson Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 12	Folks, diet is death.\|shocking\| No, really. I was keeping to a diet one day. But it didn't help. I lost some weight. But then... I gain 10 pound more.