Non-English Speaking Webmasters

Lot · 2007-03-03, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

(this might need to be in General Business Knowledge, I wasn't sure)

I see in several link list threads that some sites submitted by foreigh webmasters get rejected for spelling and grammar errors. Why are non-english speaking webmasters trying to sell porn to english speaking people? Are we the only ones that have credit cards? Are there no porn surfers in their own countries? Is the english speaking market just bigger? I was just curious, not bashing anyone at all.

You worry about bis. rivals, don't you.

redglow · 2007-03-03, 05:08 PM

Hmmm, good question Licker4U.
I live in a small corner of the world, and total we are 4.5 mill people living here. Take away the people under legal age, and the people not connected to the internet, and we are down to half of that number.
So, let's say there are 2.25 mill people online above the age of 18.
Not everyone are looking for porn, and not all looking for porn are gonna pay for it.... And not everyone got a creditcard.....
If i was planning on making porn for the few people here actually looking for porn and having a creditcard they would use to purcase porn, well, I'd better find something else to do....

And, people here are using english words when searching for porn anyway, so guess I'll be making stuff targeted to the english speaking people instead of writing in my own useless language...

oldbrad · 2007-03-03, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redglow

Hmmm, good question Licker4U.
I live in a small corner of the world, and total we are 4.5 mill people living here. Take away the people under legal age, and the people not connected to the internet, and we are down to half of that number.
So, let's say there are 2.25 mill people online above the age of 18.
Not everyone are looking for porn, and not all looking for porn are gonna pay for it.... And not everyone got a creditcard.....
If i was planning on making porn for the few people here actually looking for porn and having a creditcard they would use to purcase porn, well, I'd better find something else to do....

And, people here are using english words when searching for porn anyway, so guess I'll be making stuff targeted to the english speaking people instead of writing in my own useless language...

great input. I didn't even think about the fact that non english speakers would use english search terms. I guess possibly using english keywords, but the content of the site in "language of choice" would be a great alternative, given that those spoken countries use some form of currency and a percentage of the pop. with net access.

Even thought only 1,000,000 people in a certain ""location, language" market might have the funds, availability and access to be able to sign up or buy from a site, if only a couple dozen webmasters are catering to those people then the percentages may be in that webmasters favor.

Being 1 of a couple dozen people with a few sites each going after 200,000 potential customers v.s being 1 of 50,000 webmasters with hundreds of sites each going after customers that are used to mountains of free porn and being catered to foremost.

If i could speak a foreign language well enough i might give it a try. There must be other issues as well, being that some of the biggest sites are run by foreign webmasters. If they could be as successful in their native language, they would probably do that.

redglow · 2007-03-03, 07:17 PM

hmmm, guess I'll check out a couple of search terms that goes with my useless language, and mite even try building a site using it....
Haven't even crossed my mind to be honest, but can be worth a shot.
But, when it comes to porn surfers my guess would be they do their searching in english.. And most people over 18 where I'm from know english well enough for english sites not being a problem.
And building english sites, I target a lot more people, but sure - the idea of at least try building a site in my own language is kinda tempting, "Don't shoot it if ya haven't tried it" is kinda my motto lol

ecchi · 2007-03-03, 05:12 PM

That is something that has puzzled me for some time. But at the moment, even more so, since the $ is so far round the U bend that US money is not really worth having outside the America at the moment. I live in England and speak English, which is almost the same language that they speak in the USA, so pushing sites to Americans is easier for me. But at the moment I spend very little time pushing American websites, I live mostly on European sales in £UK and Euros. Used to be that 90% of my earnings came from American porn, but at the moment my $ sales per week are rarely enough to even get very drunk on (and most of those come from eBay-USA, not porn sites). So it puzzles the hell out of me why non English speaking people beat themselves up to struggle with a foreign language when their own language sites should make more money for them.

Useless · 2007-03-04, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lot

You worry about bis. rivals, don't you.

Part of being in business is worrying about one's rivals, no matter their language. It would be ignorant not to. But that has nothing to do with the question. (I don't consider anyone who can barely write the language to be my rival.) The issue at hand is why not spend one's efforts promoting pornography in one's mother language? Why aren't MORE non-English speaking webmasters building traffic in their language(s) and developing a wider range of secure payment methods which can be used by those who don't have credit cards?

SheepGuy · 2007-03-04, 02:37 AM

Years ago I paid a French couple in Quebec to build 100 basic AVS sites for me in French, My wife who is French checked them out and said they were correct in pretty much every French dialect and there are a few of them.
They did OK, the AVS I was dealing with had a French tour which was written in Parisian French which is different in some ways from Quebec French, and not very well written.
The experiment paid for itself over the course of a year, but barely. I promoted a few on French SE's and a couple of French LL's but didn't get much traffic.
I did a couple of Latina sites for the same AVS in English though and promoted on Spanish LL's and SE's and had better results. I think their Spanish tour option made the difference.
I won't mention the AVS's name because they are a bunch of thieving scumbags who buggered off to Panama. Nobody else had multilingual tours so I've never tried it since.

2007-03-04, 02:37 AM	#7
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Years ago I paid a French couple in Quebec to build 100 basic AVS sites for me in French, My wife who is French checked them out and said they were correct in pretty much every French dialect and there are a few of them. They did OK, the AVS I was dealing with had a French tour which was written in Parisian French which is different in some ways from Quebec French, and not very well written. The experiment paid for itself over the course of a year, but barely. I promoted a few on French SE's and a couple of French LL's but didn't get much traffic. I did a couple of Latina sites for the same AVS in English though and promoted on Spanish LL's and SE's and had better results. I think their Spanish tour option made the difference. I won't mention the AVS's name because they are a bunch of thieving scumbags who buggered off to Panama. Nobody else had multilingual tours so I've never tried it since. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-03-03, 05:08 PM	#2
redglow If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 32	Hmmm, good question Licker4U. I live in a small corner of the world, and total we are 4.5 mill people living here. Take away the people under legal age, and the people not connected to the internet, and we are down to half of that number. So, let's say there are 2.25 mill people online above the age of 18. Not everyone are looking for porn, and not all looking for porn are gonna pay for it.... And not everyone got a creditcard..... If i was planning on making porn for the few people here actually looking for porn and having a creditcard they would use to purcase porn, well, I'd better find something else to do.... And, people here are using english words when searching for porn anyway, so guess I'll be making stuff targeted to the english speaking people instead of writing in my own useless language...

2007-03-03, 07:17 PM	#4
redglow If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 32	hmmm, guess I'll check out a couple of search terms that goes with my useless language, and mite even try building a site using it.... Haven't even crossed my mind to be honest, but can be worth a shot. But, when it comes to porn surfers my guess would be they do their searching in english.. And most people over 18 where I'm from know english well enough for english sites not being a problem. And building english sites, I target a lot more people, but sure - the idea of at least try building a site in my own language is kinda tempting, "Don't shoot it if ya haven't tried it" is kinda my motto lol

2007-03-03, 05:12 PM	#5
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	That is something that has puzzled me for some time. But at the moment, even more so, since the $ is so far round the U bend that US money is not really worth having outside the America at the moment. I live in England and speak English, which is almost the same language that they speak in the USA, so pushing sites to Americans is easier for me. But at the moment I spend very little time pushing American websites, I live mostly on European sales in £UK and Euros. Used to be that 90% of my earnings came from American porn, but at the moment my $ sales per week are rarely enough to even get very drunk on (and most of those come from eBay-USA, not porn sites). So it puzzles the hell out of me why non English speaking people beat themselves up to struggle with a foreign language when their own language sites should make more money for them.