Do we, as an adult webmaster community, oppose supporting adult versions of YouTube?

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Shame on you for using your admin powers to post on the thread who voted how. If the goverment was so willy nilly with their voter information as you are, even less people would come out to vote...

No I didn't. I posted this:

Originally Posted by Greenie

...Out of the 7 YES votes, 5 are people affiliated with paysites/programs...

This isn't some secret ballot kinda thing & all I did was post what group 5 of the 7 votes (at the time) belonged to.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Really, my site is a "fake tube" site...

It's still a tube site

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Just becasue I am not the "Johny Appleseed of free porn" doesn't mean I'm a sad case and besides where would the money for all these people owning linklists and submitting sites come from if it wasn't for us evil "program owners"?...

Who said program owners were evil? My point is that since you joined OC Cash that has appeared to be your #1 priority. I come to this conclusion based on your participation here on the board, which was much greater before OC Cash came into the picture for you. Be honest on this one: If you had to prioritize the hats you wear (and we all have to do this from time to time) what would come 1st? OC or the Link List?

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Whoops, excuse the fuck out of me. I arrived at my number by taking the total number of free listings (my guess was somewhere around 20,000) and multiplying it by 10 because each site might have that number of pieces of free content. I guess you got me on the photo technicality...

It's not a technicality - you made an uneducated guess & your numbers were way off from the truth.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...8400 x 6 = 50400 free movies on LOR divided 316 Free Movies on snizzshare.com = 159 more times free porn online with LOR...

If in the year 2018 if the number of movies on snizzshare is less than 50,400 then you can compare the 2. It's kinda hard to compare an 11 year old site with one that was created 2 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Is Google bad becasue it killed Excite? Nope, just offered a better product.

Is Myspace bad becasue it killed Friendster? Is Greenguy and Jim bad beause it killed Adultnetsuprise (oh, that was a good one)?...

You can't compare any of those situation to this one because they are the same business model. I can't see where tube sites are the same business model as LL's & TGP's (other than the "free porn" angle & there's a shitload of "free porn" business models)

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Better yet, is the internet bad becasue it killed magizine sales? I think everyone can agree it's been good for all of us...

You can compare this one. And I ask you this: do you think magazine companies helped/supported/condoned the internet? I'll agree that many adapted by putting their material online, but it's kinda hard to work the material that's in the LL/TGP/FreeSite/Gallery business model into a tube site.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

...Right as we piss away on this board there is generations of potential adult customers are turning of age that grew up on Web 2.0 platforms like youtube and myspace. They are not going to crawl their way through link-dumps and warning pages like their parents did. They are going to go with something they know and the more it looks like something they are already familiar with the more they will like the site.

At the end of the day, all you are really rallying against is the design of my site, becasue what I am doing isn't anything we both haven't been doing for years:

Putting free porn online.

Things change fast in this game. You can stand back and be bitter that your business model may be becoming obsolete or you can try to keep up with times. Either way those that stay tied to the tracks of Internet circa 2001 will get run over by a train...

It's called progress!

If you want to call me bitter because it doesn't fit into my business model, then fine. I'm bitter.

In the case of snizzshare, I still find it hard to believe that someone that has a very popular Link List would encourage surfers to go to sites that are not in the same business model.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Greenie

No I didn't. I posted this:

This isn't some secret ballot kinda thing & all I did was post what group 5 of the 7 votes (at the time) belonged to.

I still think you abused your power a little. Even Jim thought so on the radio show. It's your world, I'm just living in it.

Originally Posted by Greenie

It's still a tube site

We'll have to agree to disagree then. The way I did it is much more responsible than a real tube site.

Originally Posted by Greenie

Who said program owners were evil? My point is that since you joined OC Cash that has appeared to be your #1 priority. I come to this conclusion based on your participation here on the board, which was much greater before OC Cash came into the picture for you. Be honest on this one: If you had to prioritize the hats you wear (and we all have to do this from time to time) what would come 1st? OC or the Link List?

Well OCCash is a lot more hign profile but I have 2 partners, but my personal sites I own outright. I try not to favor either. My participation died off when someone (I wonder who?) made what should have been a private business matter public and I became the board whipping boy (even still to this day).

Originally Posted by Greenie

If in the year 2018 if the number of movies on snizzshare is less than 50,400 then you can compare the 2. It's kinda hard to compare an 11 year old site with one that was created 2 weeks ago.

True.

Originally Posted by Greenie

You can't compare any of those situation to this one because they are the same business model. I can't see where tube sites are the same business model as LL's & TGP's (other than the "free porn" angle & there's a shitload of "free porn" business models)

Someone else posted "Free porn is free porn is free porn" and I agree with that pretty much.

Originally Posted by Greenie

You can compare this one. And I ask you this: do you think magazine companies helped/supported/condoned the internet?

They should have...maybe they'd still be on the racks.

Originally Posted by Greenie

If you want to call me bitter because it doesn't fit into my business model, then fine. I'm bitter.

I don't see a big difference. A Ford Model-T was a car and so is a Mecedes Benz s550. The Benz is just evelution at work. They are both still cars.

Originally Posted by Greenie

In the case of snizzshare, I still find it hard to believe that someone that has a very popular Link List would encourage surfers to go to sites that are not in the same business model.

So you are saying that it is part of our job as linklist owners to keep surfers ignorant or everything beside their linklist?

Don't get me wrong, I love linklists. There is a lot of great things about them. The recip links used to work wonders with the search engines and still do to some degree. The traffic filtering is great. Making the surfers work a little harder to get to the porn is great.

However, ther fact is: Younger surfers are going to gravitate toward Web 2.0 type things that they know and, I fear, over time - linklists will just be the dirty magizine in their dad's closet.

I, myself, would rather ride the crest of a wave than paddle feverishly trying to catch up.