I've Pulled Hardlink Trades - You May Want To Read This

[plateman]

man you guys blow shit up to beyond what it is worth

[jennym]

Originally Posted by plateman

man you guys blow shit up to beyond what it is worth

I am certainly not trying to blow things up. I believe I came in this thread very friendly and have pretty much remained that way. I was trying to have an adult conversation. Hoping to learn something from some of my much smarter peers *cough* Linkster *cough*, and trying to get some thoughts on what other people believed regarding what I posted. I also think that MANY people do not post in these types of threads because people like UW and DD act like assholes and it just isn't worth the aggravation.

If they don't believe in this "SEO hocus pocus crap" then why not do the mature thing and just not join the discussion?

Sorry...kind of went off a little, but god damn...it's like dealing with my kids at work.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by jennym

If they don't believe in this "SEO hocus pocus crap" then why not do the mature thing and just not join the discussion?

When your child is doing something ignorant, like picking his nose and eating it, do you sit idly by and watch, or do you speak up and yell, "stop eating your fucking boogers, you dumb little waterhead"?

Snot is not consumed in my home.

[jennym]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

When your child is doing something ignorant, like picking his nose and eating it, do you sit idly by and watch, or do you speak up and yell, "stop eating your fucking boogers, you dumb little waterhead"?

Snot is not consumed in my home.

Oh for the love of God we get it. Jesus Christ how does your wife put up with you? I swear I would probably stab you in your sleep.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by jennym

Oh for the love of God we get it. Jesus Christ how does your wife put up with you?

She's an aethiest.

Originally Posted by jennym

I swear I would probably stab you in your sleep.

If I knew you were willing to sleep with me, I probably would have tried a softer approach.

[Preacher]

The few responses I have received from my notices have been positive ones because the webmasters know that they had closed submits or stopped updating and totally understood where I was coming from and I thank them all for that.

And I gave something to talk about on Tuesday night so you should all be thanking me or all we'd hear about is hi-def programming and hockey results!

[Surfn]

[jennym]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Dammit.....stop making me crave popcorn.

[Lemmy]

I can't add much SEO science to the discussion (I don't spend much time on SEO boards, and as it has been pointed out elsewhere, unless you're employed by G it's only opinion anyway), but I can share what my LL has been through in the roughly 2 1/2 years it's been online.

It started out with all pages PR0 (naturally). Incrementally index went up to PR4 and almost all cat pages to PR3. Then suddenly ALL cat pages dropped to PR0. Some months later they were all back up to PR2/3. I just checked again and some pages are now PR3, the rest (most) are 0. Index/main page have remained stable. If Google is punishing me, they can't seem to make up their mind.

This leads me to believe the G either
1. Don't have a clue, or
2. Are trying, but can't get it right, or
3. Are changing the rules faster then WMs can catch up, or
4. Any combination of the above.

I try to stay informed of the most common-sense SEO "rules". I no longer aggressively pursue straight reciprocal trades with every Tom, Dick and Harry. I base my trades and whether or not I keep them up on the honesty of the webmaster and the quality of the site. That's about it. I'm off to check on my trades now (haven't done it in a looong time).

[plateman]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

I can't add much SEO science to the discussion (I don't spend much time on SEO boards, and as it has been pointed out elsewhere, unless you're employed by G it's only opinion anyway), but I can share what my LL has been through in the roughly 2 1/2 years it's been online.

It started out with all pages PR0 (naturally). Incrementally index went up to PR4 and almost all cat pages to PR3. Then suddenly ALL cat pages dropped to PR0. Some months later they were all back up to PR2/3. I just checked again and some pages are now PR3, the rest (most) are 0. Index/main page have remained stable. If Google is punishing me, they can't seem to make up their mind.

This leads me to believe the G either
1. Don't have a clue, or
2. Are trying, but can't get it right, or
3. Are changing the rules faster then WMs can catch up, or
4. Any combination of the above.

I try to stay informed of the most common-sense SEO "rules". I no longer aggressively pursue straight reciprocal trades with every Tom, Dick and Harry. I base my trades and whether or not I keep them up on the honesty of the webmaster and the quality of the site. That's about it. I'm off to check on my trades now (haven't done it in a looong time).

I read a lot of stuff and you hear some saying that googles algo is out of control and its so fucked up that they cant even get it right again

also with the recip style linking going to the way side, just think of all those free sites we have on our LL not giving us next to nothing back as far as linking power goes, you see 1000s of free sites that dropped PR and so did the passing of link juice

age of site and one way linking from editoral sites that tell people how good our sites are and other factors is what is needed to do good in google, some seo experts say

with the newer algo a LL around the age of my site has next to nothing of a chance of doing really really good in google right now IMO

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

I can't add much SEO science to the discussion (I don't spend much time on SEO boards, and as it has been pointed out elsewhere, unless you're employed by G it's only opinion anyway), but I can share what my LL has been through in the roughly 2 1/2 years it's been online.

It started out with all pages PR0 (naturally). Incrementally index went up to PR4 and almost all cat pages to PR3. Then suddenly ALL cat pages dropped to PR0. Some months later they were all back up to PR2/3. I just checked again and some pages are now PR3, the rest (most) are 0. Index/main page have remained stable. If Google is punishing me, they can't seem to make up their mind.

This leads me to believe the G either
1. Don't have a clue, or
2. Are trying, but can't get it right, or
3. Are changing the rules faster then WMs can catch up, or
4. Any combination of the above.

I try to stay informed of the most common-sense SEO "rules". I no longer aggressively pursue straight reciprocal trades with every Tom, Dick and Harry. I base my trades and whether or not I keep them up on the honesty of the webmaster and the quality of the site. That's about it. I'm off to check on my trades now (haven't done it in a looong time).

I've seen pretty much the same thing over the past few months and it looks like a few others have too. I never gave it a second thought. I figure I'm in a transition period. It's biz as usual for me. I'm not losing any sleep over something I can't control or know how to.