PR Increases

Mr Spock · 2007-07-24, 12:57 PM

interesting, so if you have you site optimised correctly you could go from 0 to 4 in one update - and obviously vice versa.

This raises another interesting question, how come few(if any) porn sites have a pr higher than 5.

LowryBigwood · 2007-07-24, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

interesting, so if you have you site optimised correctly you could go from 0 to 4 in one update - and obviously vice versa.

This raises another interesting question, how come few(if any) porn sites have a pr higher than 5.

My best guess is that it's a trust factor. Would like to hear from the others interested in this topic.

Halfdeck · 2007-07-24, 05:56 PM

Vanessa Fox Nude, a blog by ex-Googler Vanessa Fox, went from a TBPR 0 to TBPR 7 in one update.

Mr Spock · 2007-07-25, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfdeck

Vanessa Fox Nude, a blog by ex-Googler Vanessa Fox, went from a TBPR 0 to TBPR 7 in one update.

Impossible for an adult site though, the hun only has a PR5 and LOR also PR5. It seems like Google imposes a cap on adult sites PR.

SheepGuy · 2007-07-25, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

Impossible for an adult site though, the hun only has a PR5 and LOR also PR5. It seems like Google imposes a cap on adult sites PR.

youngsmut.com and PK were both PR 6 earlier this year, both dropped to 5's the same day. I'm better off now that mine has dropped because I've got my keywords back. And prior to being a 6 youngsmut was a 3 with good keywords, actually the raise to a 6 gave me less google traffic than I had with a 3.
Fucked if I know how all of that happened though, I don't even try to figure it out.

Halfdeck · 2007-07-25, 07:35 AM

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I was so much happier back when I was ignoring all this SEO mumbo jumbo.

You're not missing out on much by ignoring SEO. Fixating on SEO can be a distraction.

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It seems like Google imposes a cap on adult sites PR.

There's no cap. Google is mainly a collection of algorithms designed to return results searchers are looking for. If users are looking for porn, Google's goal is to return porn, not some .org sex-ed page.

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Those two sites are also trusted by google and probably get extra favor for it

Extra favor?

Both Matt and Vanessa's blogs link out naturally and have tons of high profile sites linking in and all of the backlinks are counted fully because they're 100% organic. No recip tables, no ABC/ABA link trade emails, no category page trades.

To Google, those kinds of links fall into the category of link spam. If those links were to count in full, their SERPS would be too easy to screw with. Ever since Big Daddy's release, Google's been open about pouring more manpower into detecting and devaluing manipulative links. When a link is devalued, or nullified (in case of rel=nofollow, for example), it passes less PageRank (or no PageRank at all).

Adult sites' inlinks and outlinks are 99% artificial - that's why the TBPRs are so low.

Fonz · 2007-07-25, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfdeck

No recip tables, no ABC/ABA link trade emails, no category page trades.

To Google, those kinds of links fall into the category of link spam. If those links were to count in full, their SERPS would be too easy to screw with. Ever since Big Daddy's release, Google's been open about pouring more manpower into detecting and devaluing manipulative links. When a link is devalued, or nullified (in case of rel=nofollow, for example), it passes less PageRank (or no PageRank at all).

Adult sites' inlinks and outlinks are 99% artificial - that's why the TBPRs are so low.

So basicly you're saying recips hurt more than they do good these days? So if we stop requesting the placement of a recip on a submitter's freesite the freesites submitted to our LL's will get a much better PR but the LL's itself won't profit from it?
And how in the world can one get lot's of high quality ibl's without paying loads of $$$ or doing something in return like linking back to another site (but then you have the ABC thing again)?

Useless · 2007-07-24, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Spock

interesting, so if you have you site optimised correctly you could go from 0 to 4 in one update

I don't think optimization has anything to with PR. Does it? I think it's all about who is linking to you...

Maj. Stress · 2007-07-24, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't think optimization has anything to with PR. Does it? I think it's all about who is linking to you...

Site structure has a direct effect on pr. It's usually not apparent unless you have a lot of pages.

Useless · 2007-07-24, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maj. Stress

Site structure has a direct effect on pr. It's usually not apparent unless you have a lot of pages.

Can you expound on that? Pretty please.

papagmp · 2007-07-29, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't think optimization has anything to with PR. Does it? I think it's all about who is linking to you...

I'm not so sure - see myth #3 - but then again, with google is anyone sure?

http://www.sitepoint.com/print/.php?aid=971
http://www.sitepoint.com/print/.php?aid=971

Useless · 2007-07-29, 09:59 AM

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I'm not so sure - see myth #3 - but then again, with google is anyone sure?

http://www.sitepoint.com/print/.php?aid=971
http://www.sitepoint.com/print/.php?aid=971

His statement agrees with what I said about PR being based on who is linking to you. I said nothing about the number of links, which is what that myth is based on.

I continue to hold my opinion point about the lack of SEO on page/site having nothing to with PR. You could put a page that only says "Rabbits like Chocolate" just once and, as long as you have enough good incoming links, that page is going to have PR. I wouldn't consider that to be an optimized page. To me it's not SEO unless the owner has actually gone out of their way to analyze and adjust the page accordining to which myths and truths he or she believes. Otherwise it's just dumb luck.

LowryBigwood · 2007-07-31, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I don't think optimization has anything to with PR. Does it? I think it's all about who is linking to you...

IMHO it does infact have a direct impact on your PR. I really cannot follow your logic on this, and I really tried. If it was just all about who is linking to you, then outbound links wouldn't have any effect on your PR...

But, we all know outbound links leak your PR, so on site optimization is infact relevant.

2007-07-24, 12:57 PM	#1
Mr Spock You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vulcan Posts: 695	interesting, so if you have you site optimised correctly you could go from 0 to 4 in one update - and obviously vice versa. This raises another interesting question, how come few(if any) porn sites have a pr higher than 5.

2007-07-24, 05:56 PM	#3
Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	Vanessa Fox Nude, a blog by ex-Googler Vanessa Fox, went from a TBPR 0 to TBPR 7 in one update. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.