What Pisses You Off With Link Lists & Free Sites?

[Allfetish]

Originally Posted by johnnybg

Didn't really wanted to elaborate, since it's been discussed in lengths on every adult webmaster board and their owners mothers boards, too.

Free content requirements for LLs and TGPs are the main contributors to overwhelming amount of free adult content. So, it's the same issue (general AND local).

I'm not counting here the forums with stolen pics and movies hosted on free image hosting and rapidshare, P2P networks, fusker sites etc. If we complain about these ruining our biz - we should look at ourselves first.

When I look at your "side", I see that if you reduce content requirements to say 10 pics and 30 secs of movies - you WILL lose bookmarkers and traffic AND income. Thats not acceptable for you and neither for me as someone who gets traffic from your site.

Noting short of all LLs lowering the bar at the same time would remotely work. And I'm not sure that would work either. I remember TGP2.

So, and I'm back to making some free sites.

I don't think LL and TGP have any of the blame anymore for too much free porn. Even though you don't want to talk about it, I think the rapidshare sites are definitely responsible for the mostly rising ratios.

Years ago I used to look at my stats and see forums sending me hundreds or even thousands of hits a day to my free sites by users linking to them themselves. Nowadays if I go on a forum and link directly to a gallery, even if it has 200 MB (!) of 1 minute clips in it -- all free -- the surfers will come on "What are you kidding? Don't post these little 1 minute clips! SPAM! SPAM!" and then soon I will get banned by the owner [you used ot be welcomed by the forum owners when you did this without going overboard]. They all expect 20 minute videos on rapidshare or megarotic now. You know things are bad when you can't even give the stuff away..... In no way are the linkslists and the TGPs responsible for this debacle anymore. As you hint, if they started going to 10 pictures per site, they would soon lose all their bookmarkers and again, they won't even be able to give the stuff away................

[tigermom]

Originally Posted by Allfetish

I don't think LL and TGP have any of the blame anymore for too much free porn. Even though you don't want to talk about it, I think the rapidshare sites are definitely responsible for the mostly rising ratios.

Years ago I used to look at my stats and see forums sending me hundreds or even thousands of hits a day to my free sites by users linking to them themselves. Nowadays if I go on a forum and link directly to a gallery, even if it has 200 MB (!) of 1 minute clips in it -- all free -- the surfers will come on "What are you kidding? Don't post these little 1 minute clips! SPAM! SPAM!" and then soon I will get banned by the owner [you used ot be welcomed by the forum owners when you did this without going overboard]. They all expect 20 minute videos on rapidshare or megarotic now. You know things are bad when you can't even give the stuff away..... In no way are the linkslists and the TGPs responsible for this debacle anymore. As you hint, if they started going to 10 pictures per site, they would soon lose all their bookmarkers and again, they won't even be able to give the stuff away................

That is sad. These forums should be reported for promoting stolen material though, IMO. I wonder if some sponsors who are being hurt by their stuff being circulated like this would ever sue.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by tigermom

That is sad. These forums should be reported for promoting stolen material though, IMO. I wonder if some sponsors who are being hurt by their stuff being circulated like this would ever sue.

You would be surprised at how many sponsors are the ones posting this material - same as the old password sites where sponsors used to put up "stolen passwords" and link them to special areas of their paysites to get more conversions - heck most of the password sharing sites used to be owned by sponsors

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Linkster

- same as the old password sites where sponsors used to put up "stolen passwords" and link them to special areas of their paysites to get more conversions -

When did this stop working..?