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Old 2008-02-08, 07:35 PM   #1
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Ya know, I don't really give a shit if I attract the "quality submitters" who submit to 50 LL's a day, If I miss a FS that every other LL has that's cool with me.
I'd rather have what I've got, people who put together interesting sites, sometimes only 1 or 2 a week, who take the time to go through my pain in the ass submission system, which involves an email fer fucks sake
Something the auto-submitters have yet to figure out.
And I've been full time for over 10 years, so this ain't no hobby.
Good for you, glad that's working out for you... Hate to burst your bubble, but sending email submissions is freakin easy... Perhaps there's another reason you don't get them... Your site has an Alexa ranking of 256,952.. Penisbot is at 4,182.. Based on my DB that puts you at about #71... Given my stats that show that a ranking in the range of 50k-60k could yield 20k-30k a day in visitors, I'd say that not having open submissions hasn't helped all that much with making your site a huge success..

I've only been doing adult full time for 6 years full time and at one point (before my downfall due to a woman), had the #1 big boobs site on the net (alhough shap and I would "disagree" about that sometimes)... I started out as a submitter and as such I treat the honest ones with respect because I remember how hard it was back then to build up the revenue and traffic. I actually go out of my way to try and make things "easy" for the honest ones... I value my "partners" in this business.
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Old 2008-02-08, 07:42 PM   #2
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Whooaa hang on there Viper. I agree that most of the measures being taken are misguided, but you're not talking to a roomful of geeks.

What you're saying is like saying M$ is a marketing company, not a software company. All the geeks will agree, but the non-geeks have got the marketing message. It's way, way too late.

The fact is, since I posted that thread, all of the list owners who were making it hardest made a real effort to ease off, which perhaps suggests it's not all quite as introspective as you are telling yourself.

Besides which, SheepGuy is sending me a reasonable amount of traffic. No, not the top level but at the top of the next tier, so he can't be doing it all wrong.
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Old 2008-02-08, 07:57 PM   #3
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Whooaa hang on there Viper. I agree that most of the measures being taken are misguided, but you're not talking to a roomful of geeks.

What you're saying is like saying M$ is a marketing company, not a software company. All the geeks will agree, but the non-geeks have got the marketing message. It's way, way too late.
Which is why I'm attempting to educate and discuss... And for that I get called a "whiner" and a "crybaby"...
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Old 2008-02-08, 07:51 PM   #4
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Why do people complain about freeeeeee traffic?
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Old 2008-02-08, 07:58 PM   #5
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Why do people complain about freeeeeee traffic?
If you had to actually do something to get that traffic then it's not free. Your time is worth money...
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Old 2008-02-08, 09:10 PM   #6
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If you had to actually do something to get that traffic then it's not free. Your time is worth money...
I guess you don't do TGP's
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Old 2008-02-08, 09:43 PM   #7
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I guess you don't do TGP's
Yeah I do.. what's your point? If you're putting any of your time into it then it's not "free"... Everything costs something.. What's your time worth?
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Old 2008-02-08, 09:50 PM   #8
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Yeah I do.. what's your point? If you're putting any of your time into it then it's not "free"... Everything costs something.. What's your time worth?
Maybe I was trying to b too nice

If you do not have an invoice from LOR , Penis Bot or Hoes . Then it is free . Any way you look at it.

Furthermore I pay for TGP submit and still have to put a capcha there too. Richard realm user name and PW . Its all work just do it and be positive dude. Life can be worse man just be lucky and grateful you're healthy enough to work at all.
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Old 2008-02-09, 02:16 AM   #10
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Don't see how I attacked you either, I'm so confused, I'm like, Useless
But man, bringing up those Alexa stats really hurts
What exactly is it that you do for a living?
And more importantly, can you get me some shrooms? I really like the panthera, the greenish ones you make tea with.
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I'm so confused, I'm like, Useless
You know what my biggest point of confusion is? Why on Earth would a free site submitter start a thread announcing that they deliberately looked for a way to bypass kit's catpcha? Why not simply email him asking him to blacklist you at both of his very successful link lists?
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Old 2008-02-09, 02:33 AM   #12
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You know what my biggest point of confusion is? Why on Earth would a free site submitter start a thread announcing that they deliberately looked for a way to bypass kit's catpcha? Why not simply email him asking him to blacklist you at both of his very successful link lists?
Probably the mushrooms
I could tell ya stories about them mushrooms
But they wear off, why try to piss everyone else off ?
I'd really like to know what the guy actually does for a living. I'm thinking it's not in the sales business.
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Old 2008-02-09, 03:10 AM   #13
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I'm thinking it's not in the sales business.
You'd be right... I did the "sales" thing a few years back with software I wrote.. but between WMs being cheap and my not enjoying having to smile pretty to people that I'd just like to throttle for being so stupid, I let that side of things slide... Even now I still get stressed out when I need to support some of the legacy software... Which is why.. as I said previously.. I have absolutely no interest in selling software to do the things I'm talking about...

But here's the thing... I have a brain... If I wanted to sell to you guys... I could always just create some new nick... suck up to all of you for a few months and then sell to you... but that's not me at all...
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Old 2008-02-09, 03:03 AM   #14
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You know what my biggest point of confusion is? Why on Earth would a free site submitter start a thread announcing that they deliberately looked for a way to bypass kit's catpcha? Why not simply email him asking him to blacklist you at both of his very successful link lists?
I'm not actually what I would consider a free site submitter.. I do it occasionally.. The majority of my time is spent on other things..

I won't even address your last point since I've already answered it multiple times but it's obviously over your head...
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Old 2008-02-09, 03:49 AM   #15
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Why not simply email him asking him to blacklist you at both of his very successful link lists?
ha ha ha... I actually missed this part....just think for a minute... everything I've posted about this stuff... do you see how hillarious that is about being blacklisted from the sites...
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What exactly is it that you do for a living?
I've already preety much said in this and the other thread...
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Old 2008-02-09, 03:16 AM   #17
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Don't see how I attacked you either
Given Lemmy's responses and the "tone" of the thread I took your post to be a personal slight/attack.. if that wasn't your intention then I apologize for my response to you..
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Old 2008-02-09, 03:24 AM   #18
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Given Lemmy's responses and the "tone" of the thread I took your post to be a personal slight/attack.. if that wasn't your intention then I apologize for my response to you..
It wasn't my intention at first, I was just kind of scratching my balls and thinking WTF?
No need for an apology now though
As a BTW though, in this biz if you don't sell you don't eat.
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As a BTW though, in this biz if you don't sell you don't eat.
Selling to surfers is different... I'm very good at that... I know on which side my bread is buttered...
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