Question For The Guys: Why facials?

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Originally Posted by Simon

I know this isn't really the board for discussions of non-consensual sex, but as someone who 'discovered' my interest in what people call rough and/or bdsm-style sex very early, I can tell you that for many men and women in the Lifestyle there is a shared belief best expressed by the phrase "consent is over-rated."

It's closely related to the concept that bondage doesn't really begin until you no longer wish to be bound. Because until then you're only bound. It's only when you want to be released, and aren't, that bondage actually begins.

For some, the idea of 'negotiating' in advance to be sure that nothing will happen to which they haven't already agreed, or the concept of using a 'safe word' to give them a measure of control is so very far from how they live their lives.

Note: I'm not talking about going around forcing people you don't know to do whatever you want them to. As much fun as that is, it's not really legal to do. However, there are people who live by the belief that "consent is given once," and that it's given to a person, not to some subset of activities.

Just wanted to offer a little measure of alternative viewpoint to the discussion of consent.


Note to Bill: That doesn't sound like a wimp to me. It sounds like you know what you like to do and you make sure that you do what you like. Wimps are those who, even if they know what they'd like to do, rarely manage to make things happen they way they 'wish' they would. They don't understand that first is the will, and all else follows.


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"Real Life is Unsafe, Insane, and Non-Consensual." -- The Book of Simon

Very interesting post there...it sounds a little like "consent to not consent" or something like that. Voluntarily being involuntary.