Handling of affiliate payments of programs bought by Dee Empire

matyko · 2008-09-03, 04:24 AM

Hi Terrence,

I haven't mailed you. I was mailing Mitza and never wanted to mail you crying for a hundred bucks. Mitza just mailed me and I think we can manage this. I tell you as well, my aim with this thread is not to make Dee Empire a bad look but to find webmasters in the same shoe and discuss this case. Dee is not the only program buying other programs and it seems to me there are some mistakes in these owner changes: new owners should make the old owners pay ALL outstanding balances (if they play fair they should do this automatically by themselves) before the takeover. Otherwise the new owner is buying the outstanding balances as well. The sad point for me was that I got a response in which your rep suggested to look for the old owners to pay the old balance.

I know you're not bad guys - even if i don't agree with some of your business solutions, but you should take much higher attention to this when buying a program. Now I am just repeating myself, sorry...

Peace

LeRoy · 2008-09-03, 04:40 AM

While your'e here. Lets talk about the change to a 1 hour cookie. Is that true. It was a 10 day cookie and now a 24 hour cookie?

Seems to be an issue you guys have been sidestepping..... Some members here are losing MUCHO DINERO.

thurbs · 2008-09-03, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by D2222

While your'e here. Lets talk about the change to a 1 hour cookie. Is that true. It was a 10 day cookie and now a 24 hour cookie?

Seems to be an issue you guys have been sidestepping..... Some members here are losing MUCHO DINERO.

we never change cookie length unless we move a backend to nats. that change goes to the default in NATS 10 day.

we wouldn't bother with 24 hour cookies considering we were the first to offer 2 year cookies with Deecash and a myriad of solutions to keep rebills and get affiliates more joins. if you have a specific issue you think I'm not addressing, but it seems like you're hearing chatter and portraying it as fact.

LeRoy · 2008-09-04, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thurbs

we never change cookie length unless we move a backend to nats. that change goes to the default in NATS 10 day.

we wouldn't bother with 24 hour cookies considering we were the first to offer 2 year cookies with Deecash and a myriad of solutions to keep rebills and get affiliates more joins. if you have a specific issue you think I'm not addressing, but it seems like you're hearing chatter and portraying it as fact.

I heard it here. And I went to web sniffer to see.

The link I entered yesterday from the facial site. Expires today.

Preacher · 2008-09-04, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by D2222

I heard it here. And I went to web sniffer to see.

The link I entered yesterday from the facial site. Expires today.

I think you've confused when the cookie life went to 1 hour. When Meatcash switched to Nats (11/2006) they reduced their cookie life.

So this was way prior to Dee's purchase of the program.

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Originally Posted by Thurbs

we never change cookie length unless we move a backend to nats.

In some cases, maybe you should.

Useless · 2008-09-04, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

In some cases, maybe you should.

Yeah, no shit. Dee is so proud of his FORMER 2 year cookie, then leaves the cookie at 10 days for all new NATS installs? To me, that doesn't sound like Dee Cash is working on "a myriad of solutions to keep rebills and get affiliates more joins."

thurbs · 2008-09-04, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Yeah, no shit. Dee is so proud of his FORMER 2 year cookie, then leaves the cookie at 10 days for all new NATS installs? To me, that doesn't sound like Dee Cash is working on "a myriad of solutions to keep rebills and get affiliates more joins."

actually, we did this because of the pressure and standards of cookie length in programs that are predominatly PPS not revshare.

as for solutions that prompt more joins and rebills

discounted rebill retry ( on rebill deny )
discounted membership offers on cancel ( live support or cancel page )
24/7 support for all members ( offer free months on other networks, discounts, bonuses, or if nescessary full refunds )

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as for cookies, you can't please everyone.

I will be looking into Meatcash, and had someone told me about this prior, we'd have looked at it earlier.

LeRoy · 2008-09-04, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

I think you've confused when the cookie life went to 1 hour. When Meatcash switched to Nats (11/2006) they reduced their cookie life.

So this was way prior to Dee's purchase of the program.

In some cases, maybe you should.

So it's a 1 hour cookie and not a 24 hour cookie.

Man that makes it tough...

Allfetish · 2008-09-04, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

I think you've confused when the cookie life went to 1 hour. When Meatcash switched to Nats (11/2006) they reduced their cookie life.

So this was way prior to Dee's purchase of the program.

In some cases i bet such things as reducing cookie life might explain at least partially why many affiliates claim that a nats switchover hurts them. Hmmm

I checked a few nats sponsors of mine and found most had it set to the default ten days.

1 hour is pretty crazy.

thurbs · 2008-09-04, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by D2222

I heard it here. And I went to web sniffer to see.

The link I entered yesterday from the facial site. Expires today.

I've set it to 10 day for now, while I go over some numbers regarding those on PPS vs those on Revshare.

Preacher · 2008-09-05, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thurbs

I've set it to 10 day for now, while I go over some numbers regarding those on PPS vs those on Revshare.

Looks like you did.

LeRoy · 2008-09-05, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thurbs

I've set it to 10 day for now, while I go over some numbers regarding those on PPS vs those on Revshare.

Great news!! My big mouth actually did something this time.

Thanks Thurbs.

dunc · 2008-09-05, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thurbs

I've set it to 10 day for now, while I go over some numbers regarding those on PPS vs those on Revshare.

Thanks

Allfetish · 2008-09-03, 08:45 AM

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We have never not paid an affiliate, on any program, old, original or bought. You will not be able to find affiliates that say things as such.

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despite what people may think as of late, our reputation in affiliate relations proceeds us.

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Originally Posted by matyko

The sad point for me was that I got a response in which your rep suggested to look for the old owners to pay the old balance.

thurbs · 2008-09-03, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by matyko

Hi Terrence,

I haven't mailed you. I was mailing Mitza and never wanted to mail you crying for a hundred bucks. Mitza just mailed me and I think we can manage this. I tell you as well, my aim with this thread is not to make Dee Empire a bad look but to find webmasters in the same shoe and discuss this case. Dee is not the only program buying other programs and it seems to me there are some mistakes in these owner changes: new owners should make the old owners pay ALL outstanding balances (if they play fair they should do this automatically by themselves) before the takeover. Otherwise the new owner is buying the outstanding balances as well. The sad point for me was that I got a response in which your rep suggested to look for the old owners to pay the old balance.

I know you're not bad guys - even if i don't agree with some of your business solutions, but you should take much higher attention to this when buying a program. Now I am just repeating myself, sorry...

Peace

Hey,

Well I understand the frusteration while reading your post. 1st thing, Mitza is not perfect, we all make mistakes. While I feel that she could have handled it better, she is was simply misinformed.

You say she has worked out a solution, if this is not the case, contact me, I'll pay it out myself.

We try to take care of every angle in an acquisition, some things take time and sometimes we make mistakes, however, when contacted directly ( and if nescessary, an issue is escalated ) we always take our time and make it the utmost priority to solve an issue.

Like I've said here, I'm always available via email to take care of urgent issues. Also, don't hesitate to email me about a couple hundred dollars ever, it all adds up and we treat all issues the same whether its $1 or $10000000.

Terrence

2008-09-03, 04:24 AM	#1
matyko Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 158	Hi Terrence, I haven't mailed you. I was mailing Mitza and never wanted to mail you crying for a hundred bucks. Mitza just mailed me and I think we can manage this. I tell you as well, my aim with this thread is not to make Dee Empire a bad look but to find webmasters in the same shoe and discuss this case. Dee is not the only program buying other programs and it seems to me there are some mistakes in these owner changes: new owners should make the old owners pay ALL outstanding balances (if they play fair they should do this automatically by themselves) before the takeover. Otherwise the new owner is buying the outstanding balances as well. The sad point for me was that I got a response in which your rep suggested to look for the old owners to pay the old balance. I know you're not bad guys - even if i don't agree with some of your business solutions, but you should take much higher attention to this when buying a program. Now I am just repeating myself, sorry... Peace __________________ Matyko (Listen to PsyRadio FM)

2008-09-03, 04:40 AM	#2
LeRoy "Young dumb and full of cum" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,372	While your'e here. Lets talk about the change to a 1 hour cookie. Is that true. It was a 10 day cookie and now a 24 hour cookie? Seems to be an issue you guys have been sidestepping..... Some members here are losing MUCHO DINERO. __________________ JAPANESE ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAM