Would these sites be accepted?

Fonz · 2008-09-11, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

I had a mistake in my templates. It should be 4 links in total per index page (except the landing page which would have more due to reciprocal links).

Out of those 4 links, 2 would be the eaxct same (sponsor) link. So is it only really possible to have 3 links that goes to another domain?

But does that also mean I can only have 3 reciprocal links on the landing page? How can you then trade with more than 3 sites?

3 outgoing links per page means that you can put up 3 links maximum that point to sites outside your freesite, recip links aren't included in those 3 links. You can have 15-20 recips on your index page (I don't know where you make the deifference between index and landing page, they're both the same to me).

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

The picture sizes are as big as they come, thats what we as affiliates are provided with by sponsors. So very little choice. Believe me, I've tried to push sponsor to provide better pictures for blogs and sites.

Bigger LL's such al Link-o-Rama require that you have pics with at least 1200 px on both sides combined (length + height). So if you want to egt listed there I suggest you try to find bigger pics.

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

3-4 galleries on gay free sits are pretty much a standard. It can be less but most use 4 galleries.

Yeah I heard something about that, never understood why.

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

subdomains, why? Subdomains are there to organize or split up a domain if it contains more than 1 site. which this domain does, the main pornisation.com is another site and works differently where as sites.pornisation.com is dedicated to hosting free sites. Sounds like a odd rule to me..

That's an old rule from when sites on subdomains where synonym to freehosting accounts. Mysite.Freehost.com etc. So the user didn't have control over his hosting. I know this is not the case for you but it's a standard rule for so if you want to get listed on the "straight" sites it's best you fiollow it.

gaydemon · 2008-09-11, 11:03 AM

Thanks for the explenation. Much appriciated.

About those outgoing links. Does 1 banner and 1 text link, both linked to the same URL count as 1 link or 2 links?

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Originally Posted by Fonz

3 outgoing links per page means that you can put up 3 links maximum that point to sites outside your freesite, recip links aren't included in those 3 links. You can have 15-20 recips on your index page (I don't know where you make the deifference between index and landing page, they're both the same to me.

I guess straight link lists have such a lot bigger choice from what submissions to accept that you can have these strict rules. I wish we could have the same in the gay side of it. Its pretty awful what we got being created now days, very few good old site builders left.

Fonz · 2008-09-11, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

About those outgoing links. Does 1 banner and 1 text link, both linked to the same URL count as 1 link or 2 links?

1 if the text is right below the banner

gaydemon · 2008-09-11, 11:25 AM

Ah ok,

I presume then that if you have 1 text link on the top of the page, then some "stuff" then a banner at the bottom the two links counts as 2 even if they are linked to the same site.

Interesting, in gay terms the sites I've created are seen as very bare not enough links and banners..

You got any an example of a perfect / very good straight free site?

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Originally Posted by Fonz

1 if the text is right below the banner

Licker4U · 2008-09-11, 05:38 PM

Fairly good straight free site: Here Got a sale yesterday

Bill · 2008-09-11, 06:30 PM

The gay linklists you mention are like a blast from the past - 1999 rules - it's been wondered many times why they still have the rules they do.

I've subbed sites to you and the other 'big names' in the gay linklist world - and oddly enough, gotten better ratios subbing smaller sites to the straight linklists. ( But maybe I built too clean. )

That could be just a coincidence - but I don't like building sites with 48-50-60 pics to get ratios that are the same or less as sites with 24 pics.

Here's a 'straight linklist' gay site that just made a sale today. Not my best niche, so I'm willing to share it. Not the greatest site...

http://www.gay-interracial-xxx.com/redhead-jarhead/

Yes, those sites you showed would be considered too clean for good sales by the standards of the 50pic gay linklists. Kind of similar to sites I subbed there.

gaydemon · 2008-10-11, 05:49 AM

maybe you should try gaydemon again? I wouldnt say gaydemon is a blast from the past, have you seen my site recently? Its format, design, coding and how it works is as up to date as you can get. Certainly not a blast from the past, very much still alive and kicking.

Traffic to free sites from gaydemon is also very good.

But the main reason why I'm creating my own free sites no is because the submissions I get are such low quality. They might follow the "modern day" rules but they look terrible. Sure they have only 3 outgoing links per page but they are a mess, ugly and inspire nothing.

So this is why I've started my own network of sites.

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Originally Posted by Bill

The gay linklists you mention are like a blast from the past - 1999 rules - it's been wondered many times why they still have the rules they do.

I've subbed sites to you and the other 'big names' in the gay linklist world - and oddly enough, gotten better ratios subbing smaller sites to the straight linklists. ( But maybe I built too clean. )

That could be just a coincidence - but I don't like building sites with 48-50-60 pics to get ratios that are the same or less as sites with 24 pics.

Here's a 'straight linklist' gay site that just made a sale today. Not my best niche, so I'm willing to share it. Not the greatest site...

http://www.gay-interracial-xxx.com/redhead-jarhead/

Yes, those sites you showed would be considered too clean for good sales by the standards of the 50pic gay linklists. Kind of similar to sites I subbed there.

Sven800 · 2008-09-14, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U

Fairly good straight free site: Here Got a sale yesterday

Personally I hate that type of layout since there are tons of thumb nails and I always end up clicking them expecting to see the larger picture. I guess I find that way of laying out a freesite a bit misleading.

Licker4U · 2008-09-14, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven800

Personally I hate that type of layout since there are tons of thumb nails and I always end up clicking them expecting to see the larger picture. I guess I find that way of laying out a freesite a bit misleading.

If a surfer is in the mood to click a thumb, and it's not clickable, maybe he/she will click a text link to get to the "good stuff". I consider it "eye candy". To each his own, it worked for me

faxxaff · 2008-09-12, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz

That's an old rule from when sites on subdomains where synonym to freehosting accounts. Mysite.Freehost.com etc. So the user didn't have control over his hosting. I know this is not the case for you but it's a standard rule for so if you want to get listed on the "straight" sites it's best you fiollow it.

I think this old rule requires review. We all know how to make a difference between freehosts and domains owned by a submitter. Subdomains are very powerful tools with proper use.

1freepornfinder · 2008-09-12, 12:23 PM

I like the look of the sites and don't care about the subdomains...

gaydemon · 2008-09-12, 06:00 PM

Thanks

Its good information though, I actually find it easier to design a site if there are straight guidelines to follow, then at least there is something to aim for.

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content. On these examples I have used the content as its provided by the sponsors. IE there isnt anything better quality wise from those sponsors.

I should also mention that the sponsors are carefuly selected based on how they have performed over a year on gaydemon.com. So its high converting sites (revshare) which obviously people like since rebills are high on them.

elKabong · 2008-09-12, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content.

That problem is simple to solve: buy content.

There are plenty of content providers that sell excellent quality pic sets for $20 or less. Here's a good place to start looking: GG&J Resources

Mateusz · 2008-09-13, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gaydemon

For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content. On these examples I have used the content as its provided by the sponsors. IE there isnt anything better quality wise from those sponsors.

Free content shouldn't be a problem if you dont push just few paysites all the time and/or sponsorts that are oversaturated.
But... from what I'm seeing you are about to submit gay free sites only, and that could be a problem even if you were using bought content. You should spread your submits over few categories

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2008-09-12, 06:00 PM	#12
gaydemon Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15	Thanks Its good information though, I actually find it easier to design a site if there are straight guidelines to follow, then at least there is something to aim for. For me, the only rule that I have problems with and will find hard to solve is the content. On these examples I have used the content as its provided by the sponsors. IE there isnt anything better quality wise from those sponsors. I should also mention that the sponsors are carefuly selected based on how they have performed over a year on gaydemon.com. So its high converting sites (revshare) which obviously people like since rebills are high on them. __________________ Bjorn Gaydemon / Directory & Search Engine Gaydemon.Biz / Gay Webmaster Forum

2008-09-11, 06:30 PM	#6
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	The gay linklists you mention are like a blast from the past - 1999 rules - it's been wondered many times why they still have the rules they do. I've subbed sites to you and the other 'big names' in the gay linklist world - and oddly enough, gotten better ratios subbing smaller sites to the straight linklists. ( But maybe I built too clean. ) That could be just a coincidence - but I don't like building sites with 48-50-60 pics to get ratios that are the same or less as sites with 24 pics. Here's a 'straight linklist' gay site that just made a sale today. Not my best niche, so I'm willing to share it. Not the greatest site... http://www.gay-interracial-xxx.com/redhead-jarhead/ Yes, those sites you showed would be considered too clean for good sales by the standards of the 50pic gay linklists. Kind of similar to sites I subbed there.