Tricking about recips

annie_cash · 2008-10-06, 09:19 PM

Today I got this freesite from this guy "hincapie". It called my attention that my recip was next to the "big ones" (he has never done that before) so I took a look at one of the link lists featured there and I found this site.

In case the sites go 404 (or your too lazy to click on the links): he sent me a mirror with the recip of my site along with the big link lists, but the mirror he sent to these lists is another mirror WITHOUT my recip.

Greenguy · 2008-10-06, 10:19 PM

I've seen that done before & I know there was some half-assed reason as to why webmasters do stuff like this, but I don't remember what it was.

virgohippy · 2008-10-07, 12:33 AM

They say it has something to do with tracking hits - a bogus reason as all decent hosts I've heard of can provide server stats anyway.

But we all know it's to get someone who's not paying attention to link to spam.

SheepGuy · 2008-10-07, 01:34 AM

I ban people for doing that. It's fake recips.

MadCat · 2008-10-07, 04:50 AM

I've seen this a few times and still can't figure out why it's done except maybe to increase chances of getting listed at the site that's got the recip next to the 'big guys'. It's fake recips so avoid that shit like the plague

On the stat end of things as far as click tracking goes, not all webhosts offer referer logging in your stats, let alone aggregate it out by directory/page, the only way you can reliably do that is have some JS tracking going on but a lot of linklists will not accept any sites/galleries that have JS on them at all (although I think the rule first originated to prevent people from pulling dumb JS tricks).

HC-Majick · 2008-10-07, 06:26 AM

I believe he's a member of the board... hincapie

(just in case you wanted to hear his reasoning )

annie_cash · 2008-10-07, 11:20 AM

I think a possible reason someone would do that is to make believe a webmaster that his site is gonna get some nice traffic from the big link lists (when the reality is he's not gonna get anything because the recips are fake).

I emailed the guy right after I found out the other mirror but I haven't heard anything from him yet.

ponygirl · 2008-10-07, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annie_cash

I think a possible reason someone would do that is to make believe a webmaster that his site is gonna get some nice traffic from the big link lists (when the reality is he's not gonna get anything because the recips are fake).

exactly.

I have a rejection reason for that - 'duplicate recips on doorway page'. I don't ban for it unless it continues, but it ticks me off.

Simon · 2008-10-07, 11:40 AM

That name and his icq number (96128702) seems to be associated with the webmaster for the CrankyCash program too. Damn shame if this is true since I was about to start promoting some of their sites (if the rss feeds were good anyway). But if he'd cheat you on traffic, Annie, then I sure won't be trusting him/them with any of our traffic.

:|

hincapie · 2008-10-15, 02:11 AM

Hey, yeah its me. Im to blame for that one.

Its not as malicious as its been made out to be - I was toying with a tool to reproduce recips - based on my database of sites I submit to. And the big ones were then together on top of the database - and accidentally, your site was alone at the bottom & thus the script started from the beginning again and filled in the 8 blanks.

Stupid mistake, specially that i didnt notice - and I do apologize.

Mateusz · 2008-10-31, 01:59 PM

Whenever I see <base href="..."> tag I automatically ban the domain.
As far as I remember they are generated by chameleon autosubmitter/software

2008-10-06, 09:19 PM	#1
annie_cash Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montevideo Posts: 449	Tricking about recips Today I got this freesite from this guy "hincapie". It called my attention that my recip was next to the "big ones" (he has never done that before) so I took a look at one of the link lists featured there and I found this site. In case the sites go 404 (or your too lazy to click on the links): he sent me a mirror with the recip of my site along with the big link lists, but the mirror he sent to these lists is another mirror WITHOUT my recip. __________________ >Submit your freesites here ICQ - 431294227

2008-10-06, 10:19 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,794	I've seen that done before & I know there was some half-assed reason as to why webmasters do stuff like this, but I don't remember what it was. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2008-10-07, 12:33 AM	#3
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	They say it has something to do with tracking hits - a bogus reason as all decent hosts I've heard of can provide server stats anyway. But we all know it's to get someone who's not paying attention to link to spam. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy. Last edited by virgohippy; 2008-10-07 at 12:36 AM..

2008-10-07, 01:34 AM	#4
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	I ban people for doing that. It's fake recips. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2008-10-07, 06:26 AM	#6
HC-Majick You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 541	I believe he's a member of the board... hincapie (just in case you wanted to hear his reasoning ) __________________ Submit Your Freesites:

2008-10-07, 04:50 AM	#5
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	I've seen this a few times and still can't figure out why it's done except maybe to increase chances of getting listed at the site that's got the recip next to the 'big guys'. It's fake recips so avoid that shit like the plague On the stat end of things as far as click tracking goes, not all webhosts offer referer logging in your stats, let alone aggregate it out by directory/page, the only way you can reliably do that is have some JS tracking going on but a lot of linklists will not accept any sites/galleries that have JS on them at all (although I think the rule first originated to prevent people from pulling dumb JS tricks).

2008-10-07, 11:20 AM	#7
annie_cash Hello, is this President Clinton? Good! I figured if anyone knew where to get some tang it would be you Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montevideo Posts: 449	I think a possible reason someone would do that is to make believe a webmaster that his site is gonna get some nice traffic from the big link lists (when the reality is he's not gonna get anything because the recips are fake). I emailed the guy right after I found out the other mirror but I haven't heard anything from him yet. __________________ >Submit your freesites here ICQ - 431294227

2008-10-07, 11:40 AM	#9
Simon That which does not kill us, will try, try again. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conch Republic Posts: 5,150	That name and his icq number (96128702) seems to be associated with the webmaster for the CrankyCash program too. Damn shame if this is true since I was about to start promoting some of their sites (if the rss feeds were good anyway). But if he'd cheat you on traffic, Annie, then I sure won't be trusting him/them with any of our traffic. :\| __________________ "If you're happy and you know it, think again." -- Guru Pitka Last edited by Simon; 2008-10-07 at 11:44 AM..

2008-10-15, 02:11 AM	#10
hincapie You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cyprus Posts: 963	Hey, yeah its me. Im to blame for that one. Its not as malicious as its been made out to be - I was toying with a tool to reproduce recips - based on my database of sites I submit to. And the big ones were then together on top of the database - and accidentally, your site was alone at the bottom & thus the script started from the beginning again and filled in the 8 blanks. Stupid mistake, specially that i didnt notice - and I do apologize. __________________ Hinc Linklists/TGPs: Adult List Loasex.com

2008-10-31, 01:59 PM	#11
Mateusz Screw you, guys. I'm going home. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gliwice, Poland Posts: 996	Whenever I see <base href="..."> tag I automatically ban the domain. As far as I remember they are generated by chameleon autosubmitter/software