1001 questions from a newbie.... me.

[Kisa]

Okay, I'll build three pages. Here's my question: what should the main url have on it? Everyone says freesite but no one has one site, with a single url that they put up once just for one submit. So if bobsblowjobs.com wants to submit a free site, he builds his bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ page... etc... so my question is, what should bobsblowjobs have on his homepage? Links to all the freepages?

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Kisa

Okay, I'll build three pages. Here's my question: what should the main url have on it? Everyone says freesite but no one has one site, with a single url that they put up once just for one submit. So if bobsblowjobs.com wants to submit a free site, he builds his bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ page... etc... so my question is, what should bobsblowjobs have on his homepage? Links to all the freepages?

You can make anything you want from bobsblowjobs.com, make it a landing page, a hub for your freesites, a page with nothing but banners to sponsors, a big picture of me, ...

The general idea to get traffic to that page is to NOT submit that page to LL's but place links to bobsblowjobs.com on the FOUR page freesites you make.

So in general you build a bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ that you submit to the LL's. And through links on those freesites you promote your main site and other sponsors.

[Kisa]

Originally Posted by Fonz

You can make anything you want from bobsblowjobs.com, make it a landing page, a hub for your freesites, a page with nothing but banners to sponsors, a big picture of me, ...

The general idea to get traffic to that page is to NOT submit that page to LL's but place links to bobsblowjobs.com on the FOUR page freesites you make.

So in general you build a bobsblowjobs.com/freesite/ that you submit to the LL's. And through links on those freesites you promote your main site and other sponsors.

Thank you. That's what I thought and what I was doing... just my freesites don't have the standard layout. Just trying to simplify...

I like the idea of putting a big picture of you on my main page. Would probably generate more traffic)

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Kisa

Thank you. That's what I thought and what I was doing... just my freesites don't have the standard layout. Just trying to simplify...

I like the idea of putting a big picture of you on my main page. Would probably generate more traffic)

Your freesites aren't freesites, they are galleries, you submit those to TGPs, not to Linklists

[Kisa]

Originally Posted by Fonz

Your freesites aren't freesites, they are galleries, you submit those to TGPs, not to Linklists

Oh my gosh. Thank you! Okay, maybe I'm slightly retarded but I finally get the difference in submitting. There was a disconnect in my understanding the difference in the submissions.

Okay, I understand now... thank you thank you thank you....sigh.... |love|

[Star Man]

Fonz pretty much nailed it.Let me attempt to break it down for you as well just to drive it home.After all,repetition is the best way to learn something new.

For now on,let's refer to your main site http://sexysascha.com/ as your hub.On this page you don't have to follow any rules so you can do whatever your little heart desires although I recommend keeping your current design or something similar because it looks great.

Now let's move on to free sites and galleries.

This http://sexysascha.com/free181/swedishteen/ is called a gallery.TGP's list these.Surfers click through these quickly and usually pass up or don't even notice your advertisement.It takes LOT'S of traffic to benefit from these types of pages.

This
http://www.crazyfetishporn.com/frees...x/matureadult/ is a 'mini site' called a free site.Link lists list these.Surfers have to do a bit of surfing before they get to the porn.It's sort of like saying 'heres your porn...but first the bullshit! The bullshit is where you make your money!

Most everyone at this board is into mostly building and listing 'free sites' like the one I listed above.Although every 'free site' has it's own unique look and design,they all maintain a standard structure to them - a waring page, a main page, and 2 or more galleries. This never changes.

Originally Posted by Kisa

..my own circle of guy friends is that they hated having to click through seven different pages (their words not mine).

Were the ones with the free porn here and were running the show so if we feel like making surfers go through 5 pages of bullshit to get to the porn not only are they going to like it,their going to beg for seconds!Were calling the shots here!We got em by the balls and their credit cards!

[Kisa]

Originally Posted by Star Man

Fonz pretty much nailed it.Let me attempt to break it down for you as well just to drive it home.After all,repetition is the best way to learn something new.

For now on,let's refer to your main site http://sexysascha.com/ as your hub.On this page you don't have to follow any rules so you can do whatever your little heart desires although I recommend keeping your current design or something similar because it looks great.

Now let's move on to free sites and galleries.

This http://sexysascha.com/free181/swedishteen/ is called a gallery.TGP's list these.Surfers click through these quickly and usually pass up or don't even notice your advertisement.It takes LOT'S of traffic to benefit from these types of pages.

This
http://www.crazyfetishporn.com/frees...x/matureadult/ is a 'mini site' called a free site.Link lists list these.Surfers have to do a bit of surfing before they get to the porn.It's sort of like saying 'heres your porn...but first the bullshit! The bullshit is where you make your money!

Most everyone at this board is into mostly building and listing 'free sites' like the one I listed above.Although every 'free site' has it's own unique look and design,they all maintain a standard structure to them - a waring page, a main page, and 2 or more galleries. This never changes.



Were the ones with the free porn here and were running the show so if we feel like making surfers go through 5 pages of bullshit to get to the porn not only are they going to like it,their going to beg for seconds!Were calling the shots here!We got em by the balls and their credit cards!

Ah HA! It's sinking in! So the freesites are almost like be baby versions of your main site? And are used to promote sponsors etc? Okay, but this is where I'm confused... please hang in here with me..... but aren't there are all sorts of rules about how many links/banners can be on a freesite etc? This confuses me. Is that per page? Because, you can get a lot on three pages. So I finally understand the freesite thing (this was just so lost on me at first) but what is actually on those first two pages seems to vary widely? yes? no?

And another question: are there any benefits to submitting a TGP?

I owe you guys so much- believe it or not, I do have some skills so hopefully there will be a way for me to make all of this up to you later..

Okay, one more question. With all the free porn out there, how does one compete? Like with this guy (and I'm sorry if you're around on this board but I don't understand) anyway, this guy: http://www.spankwire.com/ When I see that I get thrown all off course....

Thank you for everything and I will make it up to you somehow!!!

[Star Man]

Originally Posted by Kisa

Ah HA! It's sinking in! So the freesites are almost like be baby versions of your main site? And are used to promote sponsors etc? Okay, but this is where I'm confused... please hang in here with me..... but aren't there are all sorts of rules about how many links/banners can be on a freesite etc? This confuses me.

Good! I wasn't sure if I was rambling or actually making sense.Yeah free sites are sorta like a baby porn site and YES these are the ones that have to follow the rules but heres the deal - LOR is the big boss man on anything and everything having to do with free sites so if you follow his Free Site Listing Rules ,your site will get listed almost anywhere.

Originally Posted by Kisa

but what is actually on those first two pages seems to vary widely? yes? no?

I'm not sure I understand your question but I suggest going to The Greenguy Link O'Rama Main Page ,pick a category that you like and hit each site on down the page.This should help.

Originally Posted by Kisa

And another question: are there any benefits to submitting a TGP?

Yes but like I said,it takes a whole lotta traffic to see any benefits from TGP's.Look at it like this - TGP's are for speed and the traffic isn't that good.Link Lists are for endurance.You won't receive as much traffic but the quality of the traffic is much better,plus your free site will see traffic from search engines and link lists for years to come.

Originally Posted by Kisa

I owe you guys so much- believe it or not, I do have some skills so hopefully there will be a way for me to make all of this up to you later..

|idea|Well,theres always......(Star Man-get your mind out of the gutter...)


we just want to see you do well Krista

Originally Posted by Kisa

Okay, one more question. With all the free porn out there, how does one compete? Like with this guy (and I'm sorry if you're around on this board but I don't understand) anyway, this guy: http://www.spankwire.com/ When I see that I get thrown all off course....

Well it's not easy.One thing I learned though - surfers could care less about all the great art work and other flashy BS.They want to see porn so don't drive your self crazy with all the fancy stuff.Remember,the duller your site looks (to a extent),the better your sponsor site is going to look when they click on it.

Originally Posted by Kisa

Thank you for everything and I will make it up to you somehow!!!

..........we just want to see you do well Krista

[ned02]

Originally Posted by Star Man

Were the ones with the free porn here and were running the show so if we feel like making surfers go through 5 pages of bullshit to get to the porn not only are they going to like it,their going to beg for seconds!Were calling the shots here!We got em by the balls and their credit cards!

Yeah that's exactly what the guys from rapidshare, sharedimages, imagefap, usercash, linkbucks and a half a dozen torrent sites were saying the other day.

You gotta be lean and mean and adapt or die...Kisa is correct in that she wants to adapt even though she may be a little or a lot off course.
The idea of adapting is what will see her through in the long run.
The "we got 'em by the balls" era is long over and half past dead.

[Star Man]

Originally Posted by ned02

Yeah that's exactly what the guys from rapidshare, sharedimages, imagefap, usercash, linkbucks and a half a dozen torrent sites were saying the other day.

I don't know about those sites so I don't get the reference but I take it that those sites are shutdown or something?

Originally Posted by ned02

The "we got 'em by the balls" era is long over and half past dead.

That wasn't a figure of speech.I/we grab them by their nut sac,drag them to the join page,pull the credit card out of their pocket and say 'Buy a pass mother fucker!'.Thats how it's done!It's called making a sale.

Not only is "we got 'em by the balls" alive,it's well!
(cute huh?)

[ned02]

Originally Posted by Star Man

I don't know about those sites so I don't get the reference but I take it that those sites are shutdown or something?



That wasn't a figure of speech.I/we grab them by their nut sac,drag them to the join page,pull the credit card out of their pocket and say 'Buy a pass mother fucker!'.Thats how it's done!It's called making a sale.

Not only is "we got 'em by the balls" alive,it's well!
(cute huh?)

Evidently you do not live on the same planet as most adult webmasters.
You really have to get out more often

Anyone who thinks they have the surfer by the balls is just perpetrating a lie about this industry.

Making money in adult has never been more difficult and that's a fact.

P2P networks, social porn sharing networks and torrent sites among others have taken a huge chunk out of the bottom line.
Time to make yourself aware of the new reality.

"We got 'em by the balls" is unfortunately over. Stop talking bullshit.