Anyone else wonder why porn companies don't track&sue tube uploaders RIAA style?

tickler · 2010-01-22, 11:13 AM

artwilliams:
I've been mainly referring to the uploaders, and on a lot of these sites that is the admin/owner. Sure you can pop servers around. What do you do if they come after you at home?

Go read the WP-Board for the how-to

ecchi:
I said similar stuff in GB.

As far as stuff going on over there.
- The Digital Economy Bill seems to be quite targeted at illegal sharing.

- Also ACS Law has been involved in sending out 1000s of infringement notices in the UK. Digi-Protect in parts of Europe.

ecchi · 2010-01-22, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tickler

As far as stuff going on over there.
- The Digital Economy Bill seems to be quite targeted at illegal sharing.
- Also ACS Law has been involved in sending out 1000s of infringement notices in the UK. Digi-Protect in parts of Europe.

Thanks

Linkster · 2010-01-22, 06:15 PM

Another large issue you would have to circumvent, is identifying which is really stolen/uploaded and which is sponsors/paysites that purposely give the tubes the long/full clips. There are many large players that do give the larger tube sites complete access to full size movies/clips in return for advertising and overlays. The only way you are going to distinguish the stolen is to ask - and you might not always get an answer

Bill · 2010-01-22, 07:24 PM

Well, that doesn't apply in the only case i'm interested in Linkster. I'm asking does anyone know of any _content creators_ that are talking about using copyright tactics. By definition, a content creator knows wether or not their content is being used legally.

I already stipulate that the small affiliate content model is dead. There's nothing we little guys can do but switch businesses. Everything we can sell, content wise, is already being given away.

However, so far the gist of the exchange seems to be that even the content creators have only one option left - give up, try to sell their content at a fraction of it's former value, and hope to pick up some creatine crossells.

Useless · 2010-01-22, 08:51 PM

Keep in mind, a lot of content producers willingly and knowingly licensed their DVDs to a lot tube sites. Full movies on tubes are no longer necessarily pirated. In the end, the producers and brokers fucked themselves, not just us. The value of content has been greatly reduced.

I wish prostitutes would switch over to this free model. You could fuck them for free, but you'd have to register for a free trial subscription to Outdoor Living and Redbook magazines.

Linkster · 2010-01-22, 10:16 PM

Bill - sorry I didnt make myself clear enough - what I meant was the paysites that are the content creators, in a lot of cases, are providing the content to the top tubes themselves (kind of a viral marketing scheme) - and UW also brings up the other part of the content creators - the DVD houses/production companies that are doing the same thing.

On the other hand I do know a few paysite owners with their own content that are going the opposite route and filing DMCA's and filing lawsuits but at the cost of doing each filing sitting at $8k and up its tough on some of the smaller paysite owners to try.

ecchi · 2010-01-23, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

but at the cost of doing each filing sitting at $8k and up its tough on some of the smaller paysite owners to try.

That may sound like a lot, but if you produce your own movie content $8k is not going to be a large percentage of your budget.

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2010-01-22, 06:15 PM	#3
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2010-01-22, 08:51 PM	#5
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Keep in mind, a lot of content producers willingly and knowingly licensed their DVDs to a lot tube sites. Full movies on tubes are no longer necessarily pirated. In the end, the producers and brokers fucked themselves, not just us. The value of content has been greatly reduced. I wish prostitutes would switch over to this free model. You could fuck them for free, but you'd have to register for a free trial subscription to Outdoor Living and Redbook magazines. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling. Last edited by Useless; 2010-01-22 at 08:53 PM..

2010-01-22, 10:16 PM	#6
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Bill - sorry I didnt make myself clear enough - what I meant was the paysites that are the content creators, in a lot of cases, are providing the content to the top tubes themselves (kind of a viral marketing scheme) - and UW also brings up the other part of the content creators - the DVD houses/production companies that are doing the same thing. On the other hand I do know a few paysite owners with their own content that are going the opposite route and filing DMCA's and filing lawsuits but at the cost of doing each filing sitting at $8k and up its tough on some of the smaller paysite owners to try. __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2010-01-22, 07:24 PM	#4
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Well, that doesn't apply in the only case i'm interested in Linkster. I'm asking does anyone know of any _content creators_ that are talking about using copyright tactics. By definition, a content creator knows wether or not their content is being used legally. I already stipulate that the small affiliate content model is dead. There's nothing we little guys can do but switch businesses. Everything we can sell, content wise, is already being given away. However, so far the gist of the exchange seems to be that even the content creators have only one option left - give up, try to sell their content at a fraction of it's former value, and hope to pick up some creatine crossells.