The "What Are You Working On?" Thread - Week Ending February 22nd 2014

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by jason@verotel

Off to France to listen to my inlaws and drink wine and eat smelly cheese!

OK, so the French have the better wine, but if you want the really good cheese you are going to have to jump on a ferry that crosses the English Channel/La Manche to Britain, because we have the best Cheeses!

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by ecchi

...to Britain, because we have the best Cheeses!

You forgot to say "...on this side of the Atlantic." because EVERYONE knows the bestest cheeses EVER come from the great state of Wisconsin, USA!
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[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

You forgot to say "...on this side of the Atlantic." because EVERYONE knows the bestest cheeses EVER come from the great state of Wisconsin, USA!
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Sorry? You are claiming that the country that invented "spray on cheese" has anything to say about cheese making? Sorry my friend, your country gave up the right to claim it's cheese is even edible the day you took the decision to mix cheese with vegetable fat and force it into an aerosol can!

[jason@verotel]

Originally Posted by ecchi

OK, so the French have the better wine, but if you want the really good cheese you are going to have to jump on a ferry that crosses the English Channel/La Manche to Britain, because we have the best Cheeses!

Originally Posted by Greenguy

You forgot to say "...on this side of the Atlantic." because EVERYONE knows the bestest cheeses EVER come from the great state of Wisconsin, USA!
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Originally Posted by ecchi

Sorry? You are claiming that the country that invented "spray on cheese" has anything to say about cheese making? Sorry my friend, your country gave up the right to claim it's cheese is even edible the day you took the decision to mix cheese with vegetable fat and force it into an aerosol can!

I grew up in Michigan, not too far from WI and to me cheddar is cheddar. I do like some british cheddar too and maybe its even better than US, but French cheese is a whole other ballgame. There is no comparison. More flavor, hands down. You cannot even compare it. If I took cheddar into France, they would probably hang me by my balls with a rusty hook.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by jason@verotel

I grew up in Michigan, not too far from WI and to me cheddar is cheddar. I do like some british cheddar too and maybe its even better than US

Umm, you do know that cheddar is a British cheese, don't you? It is called cheddar because it was invented in a place in England called Cheddar, and was originally made in the caves of the Cheddar Gorge!

Originally Posted by jason@verotel

but French cheese is a whole other ballgame. There is no comparison. More flavor, hands down.

Well it may have "more flavour" than American cheeses, but the reason I originally said "British cheese is better" is that French cheeses have (on the whole) less flavour than French cheeses. And I would defiantly include mature cheddar in that list. I'm guessing your American cheddar is what we call "mild cheddar" which is is a cheaper alternative, that is not aged as long, and so has little taste. In fact I'm guessing, from your comments, most American cheeses are what Europeans would call mild cheeses.

Originally Posted by jason@verotel

If I took cheddar into France, they would probably hang me by my balls with a rusty hook.

If you took anything English to France and inferred that it was better than, or even as good as, the French version, they will hang you by your balls from a rusty hook. The French tend to hate anyone who is not French on principle, but they reserve a particular, special hatred for the English. This is probably because we have often been at war with them, and usually beat them. Possibly also fuelled by the fact that during the evil period when the larger European countries were colonising (i.e. invading and enslaving) most of the rest of the world, France and England were always trying to be better at it than each other (we beat the French at that too... but we ain't exactly proud about that these days).

OK, so I'm not saying that we don't have some crap cheeses in Britain, we do. We have some truly dreadful cheeses. But the best British cheeses are better than the best French cheeses. Try stilton, mature cheddar, mature double gloucester, marmite cheese, or (referencing another thread on this board) a good wensledale.

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[jason@verotel]

Originally Posted by ecchi

Umm, you do know that cheddar is a British cheese, don't you? It is called cheddar because it was invented in a place in England called Cheddar, and was originally made in the caves of the Cheddar Gorge!


Well it may have "more flavour" than American cheeses, but the reason I originally said "British cheese is better" is that French cheeses have (on the whole) less flavour than French cheeses. And I would defiantly include mature cheddar in that list. I'm guessing your American cheddar is what we call "mild cheddar" which is is a cheaper alternative, that is not aged as long, and so has little taste. In fact I'm guessing, from your comments, most American cheeses are what Europeans would call mild cheeses.


If you took anything English to France and inferred that it was better than, or even as good as, the French version, they will hang you by your balls from a rusty hook. The French tend to hate anyone who is not French on principle, but they reserve a particular, special hatred for the English. This is probably because we have often been at war with them, and usually beat them. Possibly also fuelled by the fact that during the evil period when the larger European countries were colonising (i.e. invading and enslaving) most of the rest of the world, France and England were always trying to be better at it than each other (we beat the French at that too... but we ain't exactly proud about that these days).

OK, so I'm not saying that we don't have some crap cheeses in Britain, we do. We have some truly dreadful cheeses. But the best British cheeses are better than the best French cheeses. Try stilton, mature cheddar, mature double gloucester, marmite cheese, or (referencing another thread on this board) a good wensledale.

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Dude you do not have crap cheese in Britain and I certainly did not mean to imply such a thing!!! All the cheese is good. It all makes me feel lovely inside! Some is better than others.

In fact I have to tell you that I am always looking for a British shop in Amsterdam to satisfy my cheese cravings! I love Red Leicester and think it is one of the best cheeses I have ever tasted. I like to eat it raw or sliced on a burger. You are correct that American sharp cheddar would be compared to a mild cheddar over here. I really had no clue about cheddar until leaving the US. Most of the cheeses in the US are young cheese with little to no flavor. Even the aged or what they call "sharp" is not that tasty when compared to some of the stuff you get over on this side of the pond.