XXXJay way to step up on Zango

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!

I think you just proved my point better than I ever could...

[digifan]

Jayeff is a very educated and intelligent member of a few boards which should be proud of having him as a member. He is always helpful, up to date and a realist.

UW why are you mad at the world? It is not funny... when last time I told you that maybe you shouldn't bash people and webmasters whose mother language is not English, I was thinking of Stuvelje who is a respected member here and I am sorry you did not realize that. Now Jayeff is an ass... awesome... not.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I think that most longstanding boards have their share of pros & cons. It's up to the individual to determine what they are willing to accept in order to get what they want or need from it. I don't find it difficult to peruse gfy with blinders on when I need to be there. Thankfully such occasions are rare these days though

No shit! Live's a bitch and then you buy one.
[of those long standing boards that is...]

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I think that most longstanding boards have their share of pros & cons. It's up to the individual to determine what they are willing to accept in order to get what they want or need from it. I don't find it difficult to peruse gfy with blinders on when I need to be there. Thankfully such occasions are rare these days though

Well said

There is indeed 'some' useful information over there. And sometimes filtering through the muck to find those bits of into is downright entertaining (in a car wreck kinda way of course ).

While I don't know Jayeff at all, the posts of his I've seen always seemed articulate and on point.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by digifan

UW why are you mad at the world?

I'm not. Is there something new or surprising in my tone? I called a guy an ass for defending GFY. Big deal. GFY is a shit hole.

Originally Posted by digifan

It is not funny...

It wasn't meant to be!

Originally Posted by digifan

when last time I told you that maybe you shouldn't bash people and webmasters whose mother language is not English, I was thinking of Stuvelje who is a respected member here and I am sorry you did not realize that.

What the fuck are you talking about? What does Stu have to do with this? I love Stu, btw. When's the last time you told Greenie not bash foriegners? Would you like to take this thread in yet another direction? Is there some other issue you'd like to get off your chest?

Originally Posted by digifan

Now Jayeff is an ass... awesome... not.

Yes, that's my opinion. I'm sure he's a lovely guy, but I don't know him - how would I? I don't spend my days trolling GFY. |shocking|

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

...When's the last time you told Greenie not bash foriegners?...

Hey Now! I don't bash foreigners, I bash non-English speaking webmasters. I'd bash a webmaster that was born in Cleveland if the only language they spoke Spanish

(PS - I can read deleted posts - BRILLIANT!)

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I'm not. Is there something new or surprising in my tone? I called a guy an ass for defending GFY. Big deal. GFY is a shit hole.

Actually what you did was reply to a post, using the exact same bad language and personal insults as so many people find distasteful on GFY. In fact your response was such that for a moment I thought I was on GFY by mistake...

Oh yes, and if you had read my post before dropping into keyboard warrior mode, you might have noticed that I was not offering a defense of GFY: merely stating my reasons for visiting it. I should have added that GFY is also a very useful place to learn who not to do business with. Thank you for reminding me of that omission.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Greenie

(PS - I can read deleted posts - BRILLIANT!)

I got carried away with myself. Then I saw Digi's post, which I remain confused by, and I decided that my initial post was, well - useless.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by jayeff

Oh yes, and if you had read my post before dropping into keyboard warrior mode...

NO, NO, NO!!!

Repeat after me: "Useless" (not "keyboard") Silly boy.

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by jayeff

Here's a few pro's and con's:

• I started a resource site at the beginning of September and began posting here (with a sig) about 10 days into the month. Despite that late start and its more restrictive sig rules, this board has generated the most visitors to date. GFY, where I have been posting since 2001, generated the fewest visitors of all the boards on which I post. However, Netpond and GFY visitors generated the most revenue. Make of those results what you will
• I started visiting GFY out of curiousity and then noticed that I was picking up maybe twice as much info about new sites and special promotions as I received by email. That had me double-checking that my sponsors had my current email address, yes they did, so in the end I came to the conclusion that many sponsors live in a world in which existing affiliates are supposed to visit their sites for news. The situation has improved a little in the past 5 years, but however much rubbish appears on GFY, I still don't know a single source more likely to keep one reasonably up to date.
• If you discount the obvious sig-whores and surfers, I would argue that GFY better represents a cross-section of the webmaster community than the boards which enforce their own standards. Certainly such enforcement makes the boards in question easier to use, but it also filters their posters, whereas on GFY you see everyone "in the raw" as it were. For better or worse, I like to see how people I may do business with behave when allowed to be themselves.

As to the XXXJay thing... I made my own observations about someone who runs both a sponsor program and a large traffic resource, apparently unconcerned that he was completely out of the loop on an issue which affected him directly (and negatively), but was nevertheless willing to take sides based solely on the personalities involved.

Unfortunately he isn't an exception and the reality of the scumware issue (and many others like it) is that they would never occur, were it not that those who decide to play dirty know that some will defend them because of who they are, while the vast majority of webmasters will stay on the sidelines. I doubt I shall ever understand why so few people in this industry are prepared to defend their business interests.

Ditto.. well said

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You're an ass. You can't simply discount that shit. Take GFY as a fucking WHOLE. As a WHOLE, it's a haven for idiots and sig whores. Which are you?

Who the hell wants to filter through all that shit? Who? Answer me GODDAMN IT!

You are USELESS

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Senator_x

You are USELESS

Well, you're a clever little cunt, aren't ya. Did you think of that one on your own or did you pull that little piece of originality out of the GG&Jim archives?

Sit there...wondering if I give 1 and a 1/4 shits what YOU think of ME. I can already hear the hamsters jogging along on that little wheel you call a brain.

To hell with Zango. To hell with XXXJay's support of Lars. To hell with GFY. Let's make this ALL ABOUT ME and what a horrible bastard I am!

Would any other no-name fuck-face like to piss on me because I called Jayeff an ass? This shit makes me harder than midget porn (and you wouldn't believe how hard that makes me).

Now that I've called Senator (who?) a clever little cunt, would some other even less-known fuckwad like to battle me over that - or does this guy have no friends? I've time to waste.

Yes, I called Jayeff an ass for his opinion. Big fargin' deal. I'm sure he's a lovely chap with testes that smell of daisies.

Christ, I'm gonna need a Juicy sig if I keep this shit up.

BTW, Senator - I hope they change your name to Senator_cunt. Why don't you post a few more times in that thread, numbnuts.


I'm still blaming Gonzo for this whole mess.

[Chop Smith]

Originally Posted by Senator_x

You are USELESS

Far from it. You might find UW to be offensive but he is a highly intelligent person that has brilliant ideas. He forms his opinions and perhaps express them in a hostile manner in order to draw attention. Most old members of this board search to read the COCKSUCKER'S posts.

I hear that Jayeff knows his stuff about blogs and is a welcomed asset to the GG&J blogging community. I hope he sticks around. However, that horrible bastard that we call Useless will express his opinion. Agree or disagree with him but always enjoy his posts.

Gonzo, was this thread meant to be about the pros and cons of the zoo?

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Well, you're a clever little cunt, aren't ya. Did you think of that one on your own or did you pull that little piece of originality out of the GG&Jim archives?

Sit there...wondering if I give 1 and a 1/4 shits what YOU think of ME. I can already hear the hamsters jogging along on that little wheel you call a brain.

To hell with Zango. To hell with XXXJay's support of Lars. To hell with GFY. Let's make this ALL ABOUT ME and what a horrible bastard I am!

Would any other no-name fuck-face like to piss on me because I called Jayeff an ass? This shit makes me harder than midget porn (and you wouldn't believe how hard that makes me).

Now that I've called Senator (who?) a clever little cunt, would some other even less-known fuckwad like to battle me over that - or does this guy have no friends? I've time to waste.

Yes, I called Jayeff an ass for his opinion. Big fargin' deal. I'm sure he's a lovely chap with testes that smell of daisies.

Christ, I'm gonna need a Juicy sig if I keep this shit up.

BTW, Senator - I hope they change your name to Senator_cunt. Why don't you post a few more times in that thread, numbnuts.


I'm still blaming Gonzo for this whole mess.

God if you blame me for this you dont want to see what I just posted on Oprano about a class action suit.

[T Pat]

Second time in a week you've sent me in search of a link Gonzo

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=50166

Don't anyone take me wrong I have nothing negative to say about Oprano and I didn't have to wade threw a bunch of crap to find the link

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by T Pat

Second time in a week you've sent me in search of a link Gonzo

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=50166

Don't anyone take me wrong I have nothing negative to say about Oprano and I didn't have to wade threw a bunch of crap to find the link

I take criticism well.
But I am respectful to GG and Jim. AS I dont mind links on Oprano I dont know what the policy is here so I figured if anyone wanted to see theyd go looking.

That one was easy to find I am sure.

[docholly]

hmm after reading that extremely interesting post & article all i can say is that Karma is a Bitch. What you do, comes back at you 3 times better OR worse as in the cited article. Ok I wish it had come a little quicker but hey I'll take what I can get. *flashing eyez at MML and Tart*

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by GonZo

...But I am respectful to GG and Jim. AS I dont mind links on Oprano I dont know what the policy is here so I figured if anyone wanted to see theyd go looking...

You, my friend, can post links like that on here anytime you want

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Greenie

You, my friend, can post links like that on here anytime you want

Likewise for you guys. Hell theres a Green Guy and Jim kicks Zangos ass over there now! haha

[Jim]

Well, this thread took a strange turn toward the bizarre. I go to GFY about once/day for the entertainment value. And I think if that is what you are looking for, GFY is the place to find it

Comparing webmaster forums seems to be a lot like TV shows. For example..Studio 60 Vs CSI Miami. CSI Miami gets about 17 million viewers to Studio 60s 6.5 million viewers. The average income for those that watch CSI Miami is between 15 to 35 Thousand Dollars/Year. The average income for those that watch Studio 60 is over 75 Thousand Dollars/Year. That makes Studio 60 actually worth more to advertisers than CSI Miami. Even with almost as few as 1/3 the viewership.

Jesus, I think I pay too much attention to Television trends.

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Well, you're a clever little cunt, aren't ya. Did you think of that one on your own or did you pull that little piece of originality out of the GG&Jim archives?

Sit there...wondering if I give 1 and a 1/4 shits what YOU think of ME. I can already hear the hamsters jogging along on that little wheel you call a brain.

To hell with Zango. To hell with XXXJay's support of Lars. To hell with GFY. Let's make this ALL ABOUT ME and what a horrible bastard I am!

Would any other no-name fuck-face like to piss on me because I called Jayeff an ass? This shit makes me harder than midget porn (and you wouldn't believe how hard that makes me).

Now that I've called Senator (who?) a clever little cunt, would some other even less-known fuckwad like to battle me over that - or does this guy have no friends? I've time to waste.

Yes, I called Jayeff an ass for his opinion. Big fargin' deal. I'm sure he's a lovely chap with testes that smell of daisies.

Christ, I'm gonna need a Juicy sig if I keep this shit up.

BTW, Senator - I hope they change your name to Senator_cunt. Why don't you post a few more times in that thread, numbnuts.


I'm still blaming Gonzo for this whole mess.

You really hurt my feelings. For a minute, I though I was over at GFY. Aren't you the guy who does cheap useless TGP gallery designs?

[monro]

Honest behavior between business partners
AdultFriendFinder admit by Legendary Lars that they shave in the open by using Zango. In other words, they admit taking money from you, the affiliate. They are backed up by spineless people, SleazyDream as an example.
If they shave in the open, what are they doing behind the doors? You can just guess! Of course they are waiting for the protests to blow over and then proceed with the thefts. Continue to publish their behavior until:
1. They pay back the money to the affiliates stolen by the use of Zango, say 4% of the payouts.
2. They pay back the money probably stolen by shaving. I'm not saying they do it, but in the light of the Zango thefts, another 10%, who knows?
3. Supply all affiliates with an excuse and instructions how to protect their domains in the future against the spy ware used.
Then we can do a new start next year using honest behavior between business partners.
----------------------------
I posted this in GFY today as well.

[Senator_x]

A lot of behind the scene action is happening. There are deals behind the scenes to keep people on the upper echelon happy. This whole situation cannot turn out well for AFF in the long run.

We are still between stages 1 and 2 depending on the sponsor.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Ghandi

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Senator_cunt

You really hurt my feelings. For a minute, I though I was over at GFY. Aren't you the guy who does cheap useless TGP gallery designs?

Not in a loooooong time. You must have searched for my 25 posts on GFY to find that.

Let me know if you'd like to keep this going. I don't care who you are, what you are, or what you do - which is most likely nothing - you are a fucking fool if you think I'll allow you to pick and prod at me here. I'd suggest you shut your mouth and go on living peacefully.

[Senator_x]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Not in a loooooong time. You must have searched for my 25 posts on GFY to find that.

Let me know if you'd like to keep this going. I don't care who you are, what you are, or what you do - which is most likely nothing - you are a fucking fool if you think I'll allow you to pick and prod at me here. I'd suggest you shut your mouth and go on living peacefully.

Are you threating me?

Are you suggesting that if I don't shut my mouth, that you might do something about it?

Who are you? Tommy DeVito
"I don't shine shoes anymore. "




















A Useless Warrior... "Now go home and get your fucking shine box!"