My "new" adult pay site: need suggestions

dani · 2004-05-28, 10:16 AM

eroticdaniella.com

Hi gentlemen and ladies, the above link is my new adult pay site. If you take a look at it you will see that it is a combination free/pay a bit of a hybrid from the normal pay site.

A short history: Untill April I was an escort and probably the most successful one in Toronto. I had only been an escort since mid 2003 but back in February I was busted by LE. The toronto papers made a fuss of the situation and I have added a link for you to read why.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1077750609587
Well the papers played it up from there with information about me that was news to me. I digress however.

What I am asking for is maybe a critique of the site or suggestions on how I can beef it up to make it more interesting.
If you look at my Alexa stats they are ok, but after the arrest I found they dropped quite a bit and that is when I switched from an escort site to a pay site. I am finding now that they are on the rise again and I am hopeful that I will crack the top 100,000 shortly.

I advised my webmaster that I would be asking others about the site and where better to go than where the experts are!!!!!!!!

Dani(be kind to me)

Cleo · 2004-05-28, 10:24 AM

Hi there, welcome to the board.

Your newspaper link gives this error
GX Error (GX2GX)
socket result code missing!!!

Nice looking tour

I think you need to get a real processor for you paysite. Also 34.95 for a year is not the way to do it.

dani · 2004-05-28, 10:57 AM

Thanks Cleo, I fixed the link, you mentioned the price and the processor; could you Pm me with what you suggest. It would certainly assist me.

Dani

Surfn · 2004-05-28, 11:16 AM

Hi dani

welcome to the board

In addition to what Cleo has already mentioned I would put some text tease on the index page about how you got busted. Make them want to join to find out the rest.

dani · 2004-05-28, 11:46 AM

Hi Surfn, not a bad thought, the story is widely known in the Toronto area. It could certainly titillate some elsewhere.

Dani

SirMoby · 2004-05-29, 08:31 AM

The site looks great and you're heading in the right direction but the site looks new and that might make a few hold off. To beef it up and increase the heat I would recommened:

1. Add some text to the diary on the tour. Don't complete any stories but start 1 or more and make the text very juicy but don't get to the best stuff. Tease the surfer a bit but leave them wanting more. If you do more then 1 entry try to write about different scenerios.
2. Ask a bunch of friends and ex-customers to write in the forum. Validation is a good motivator and right now a surfer may see only 1 customer and decide that no one else is joining.

The only other thing you may want to do is put the full size pics on html pages with a small but obvious link to join or something.

The site design is nice but your webmaster may want to look at the about page as it seems a little off. All in all you have a good design, you're way hot and with some decent marketing it could take off.

Surfers will pay $20 a month to spend time with you and if you do a live show every week you may get them addicted for years.

dani · 2004-05-29, 10:04 AM

SirMoby, those are great suggestions and are similar to what I have planned. I am starting off very cheaply at this time but I plan on raising the price as my erotic and XXX content grows, and it will eventually be around the $20 month mark.
Once again thankyou.

Dani(striving for a little class, does anyone have a key?)

http://www.eroticdaniella.com/promotional/s3/purp31.jpg

Cleo · 2004-05-29, 10:09 AM

Some good suggestions have been posted.

I would do the $19.95 a month deal.

Surfers want instant membership so you need to get a processor, CCBill or someone like that. I personally have no love for CCBill but lots of places use them. Anything but asking them to mail you a check.

dani · 2004-05-29, 06:07 PM

Hi Cleo, the price will be going up and I do have CCbill but I also gave a PO box for those who may want some more anonimity.
I am just trying to cover the bases. It seems to be working just fine right now in that way, by far the majority have gone through CCbill.

Thank you again for your thoughts..

Dani(forging ahead down a slightly different path)

Cleo · 2004-05-29, 06:11 PM

Guess I missed the CCBill option when I was surfing your site. LOL

dani · 2004-05-29, 06:22 PM

But you are omnipotent and in Florida to boot, you should not have missed that..LOL

Dani(Just having fun)

http://www.eroticdaniella.com/promotional/s5/swim02.jpg

Cleo · 2004-05-29, 06:28 PM

I may be omnipotent, but I'm usually also stoned and doing twelve and a half things at once.

It's all good.

seb · 2004-05-31, 01:59 AM

Looks great to me. The only minor thing I would change is maybe on http://www.eroticdaniella.com/indexb.html I would use a darker color of fonts instead of that red. Maybe even a different type of font. Besides that looks great

terry · 2004-05-31, 09:08 AM

Hi Dani,

Site looks good. Im in Montreal.. next trip to TO, I'll look you up

I do have a question for everyone regarding CCBill. I am holding off on a few paysites as I am told I need a US address in order to get CCBill.. however I never contacted them myself, just listening to what others tell me.. is this true?

Terry

dani · 2004-05-31, 04:35 PM

Hi Terry, If you are refering to joining them as a member, the simple answer is NO.

Join and enjoy..
Dani

dani · 2004-06-01, 10:50 AM

I posted this exact same question on another board at the same time as this one. They seemed to be the top two that came up in my search.
What I have found is that on this board the comments although not always positive were given in a positive way if in fact there was any overt criticism.
On the other board it seemed that almost every post regarding my site ended up being critical and a "It can't be that popular there must be reasons for it!!" answer.
I am going to use the information gleaned from members of both boards to assist my webmaster and I in "changes" but I post this to show how incongrous it is to see two completely different "attitudes" towards the same question

Thanks guys and good luck Cleo on the water adventures, you have way too much time on your hands

Dani

ecchi · 2004-06-01, 11:49 AM

I would suggest changing your "I Agree / I disagree" links to simpler "Enter / Exit" links. It may be hard to believe but plenty of surfers are stupid enough not to realise that "I Agree" is where they click to continue. Also some will see "I Agree" as you trying to force thwem to agree with something and not click because of it. Remember, the term "average intelegence" means "the level of intelegence that 50% of people are below".

dani · 2004-06-02, 12:10 PM

ecchi, my webmaster kicked himself hard for that stupid one. He agrees with you totally and the buttons will be changed shortly. Thanks

Dani(you guys are awesome)

Tommy · 2004-06-02, 12:44 PM

I am sorry but i hate the tour

the index page doesnt show your face and neither does the next page really

but you have enough pics to submit that around and get it linked
even though its a paysite, it fits the rules

dani · 2004-06-02, 01:09 PM

Tommy I agree 100% I do not like the index page pic and I was talking about that yesterday. It is going to be changed. I am going to ask my webmaster to change it to one that seems to be popular according to comments I have received. It is the large page picture in gallery 3 me looking back on the Harley.

Dani(more great suggestions.)

dani · 2004-06-14, 03:42 PM

We've improved the look of the site as well as redesigned the navigation system. With all the things Dani wants in there, it was important to do the overhaul now as opposed to later.

Pop on over and take a peek. Let us know what you think as your honest constructive critique is definitely appreciated.

We've taken some of the suggestions and applied them to the site. A thank you to all who took the time to respond!

Some of you may have to refresh your browsers to see the new look. Here's the link:

http://www.eroticdaniella.com/indexb.html

__________________
www.ra-media.org

Ya can't suck and blow at the same time!

The above is from my webmaster....

Now thats a great look to the site.. There will be some more changes coming and it is good to see that I have a Webmaster who once every few weeks actually listens to me..(LMFAO).
I will also have a lot more content being added and much of it will be video, yes you will get to see me doing something that I seem to have perfected over a number of years, I will leave your imagination to run away with that and I guarantee you will be correct!!!!!
So gentleman and ladies, because I always welcome ladies, come on in a take a look and just wait; it will only continue to get better.

Dani(how many licks does it take to get to the centre)

2004-05-28, 10:16 AM	#1
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	My "new" adult pay site: need suggestions eroticdaniella.com Hi gentlemen and ladies, the above link is my new adult pay site. If you take a look at it you will see that it is a combination free/pay a bit of a hybrid from the normal pay site. A short history: Untill April I was an escort and probably the most successful one in Toronto. I had only been an escort since mid 2003 but back in February I was busted by LE. The toronto papers made a fuss of the situation and I have added a link for you to read why. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1077750609587 Well the papers played it up from there with information about me that was news to me. I digress however. What I am asking for is maybe a critique of the site or suggestions on how I can beef it up to make it more interesting. If you look at my Alexa stats they are ok, but after the arrest I found they dropped quite a bit and that is when I switched from an escort site to a pay site. I am finding now that they are on the rise again and I am hopeful that I will crack the top 100,000 shortly. I advised my webmaster that I would be asking others about the site and where better to go than where the experts are!!!!!!!! Dani(be kind to me) Last edited by dani; 2004-05-28 at 10:54 AM..

2004-05-28, 10:24 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Hi there, welcome to the board. Your newspaper link gives this error GX Error (GX2GX) socket result code missing!!! Nice looking tour I think you need to get a real processor for you paysite. Also 34.95 for a year is not the way to do it. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-28, 11:46 AM	#5
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	Hi Surfn, not a bad thought, the story is widely known in the Toronto area. It could certainly titillate some elsewhere. Dani Last edited by dani; 2004-05-28 at 12:30 PM..

2004-05-29, 10:04 AM	#7
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	SirMoby, those are great suggestions and are similar to what I have planned. I am starting off very cheaply at this time but I plan on raising the price as my erotic and XXX content grows, and it will eventually be around the $20 month mark. Once again thankyou. Dani(striving for a little class, does anyone have a key?) http://www.eroticdaniella.com/promotional/s3/purp31.jpg Last edited by dani; 2004-05-29 at 10:20 AM..

2004-05-29, 10:09 AM	#8
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Some good suggestions have been posted. I would do the $19.95 a month deal. Surfers want instant membership so you need to get a processor, CCBill or someone like that. I personally have no love for CCBill but lots of places use them. Anything but asking them to mail you a check. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-28, 10:57 AM	#3
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	Thanks Cleo, I fixed the link, you mentioned the price and the processor; could you Pm me with what you suggest. It would certainly assist me. Dani

2004-05-28, 11:16 AM	#4
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Hi dani welcome to the board In addition to what Cleo has already mentioned I would put some text tease on the index page about how you got busted. Make them want to join to find out the rest.

2004-05-29, 08:31 AM	#6
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	The site looks great and you're heading in the right direction but the site looks new and that might make a few hold off. To beef it up and increase the heat I would recommened: 1. Add some text to the diary on the tour. Don't complete any stories but start 1 or more and make the text very juicy but don't get to the best stuff. Tease the surfer a bit but leave them wanting more. If you do more then 1 entry try to write about different scenerios. 2. Ask a bunch of friends and ex-customers to write in the forum. Validation is a good motivator and right now a surfer may see only 1 customer and decide that no one else is joining. The only other thing you may want to do is put the full size pics on html pages with a small but obvious link to join or something. The site design is nice but your webmaster may want to look at the about page as it seems a little off. All in all you have a good design, you're way hot and with some decent marketing it could take off. Surfers will pay $20 a month to spend time with you and if you do a live show every week you may get them addicted for years.

2004-05-29, 06:07 PM	#9
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	Hi Cleo, the price will be going up and I do have CCbill but I also gave a PO box for those who may want some more anonimity. I am just trying to cover the bases. It seems to be working just fine right now in that way, by far the majority have gone through CCbill. Thank you again for your thoughts.. Dani(forging ahead down a slightly different path)

2004-05-29, 06:11 PM	#10
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Guess I missed the CCBill option when I was surfing your site. LOL __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-29, 06:22 PM	#11
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	But you are omnipotent and in Florida to boot, you should not have missed that..LOL Dani(Just having fun) http://www.eroticdaniella.com/promotional/s5/swim02.jpg

2004-05-29, 06:28 PM	#12
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I may be omnipotent, but I'm usually also stoned and doing twelve and a half things at once. It's all good. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-31, 01:59 AM	#13
seb Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 20	Looks great to me. The only minor thing I would change is maybe on http://www.eroticdaniella.com/indexb.html I would use a darker color of fonts instead of that red. Maybe even a different type of font. Besides that looks great

2004-05-31, 09:08 AM	#14
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	Hi Dani, Site looks good. Im in Montreal.. next trip to TO, I'll look you up I do have a question for everyone regarding CCBill. I am holding off on a few paysites as I am told I need a US address in order to get CCBill.. however I never contacted them myself, just listening to what others tell me.. is this true? Terry __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2004-05-31, 04:35 PM	#15
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	Hi Terry, If you are refering to joining them as a member, the simple answer is NO. Join and enjoy.. Dani

2004-06-01, 10:50 AM	#16
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	I posted this exact same question on another board at the same time as this one. They seemed to be the top two that came up in my search. What I have found is that on this board the comments although not always positive were given in a positive way if in fact there was any overt criticism. On the other board it seemed that almost every post regarding my site ended up being critical and a "It can't be that popular there must be reasons for it!!" answer. I am going to use the information gleaned from members of both boards to assist my webmaster and I in "changes" but I post this to show how incongrous it is to see two completely different "attitudes" towards the same question Thanks guys and good luck Cleo on the water adventures, you have way too much time on your hands Dani

2004-06-01, 11:49 AM	#17
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	I would suggest changing your "I Agree / I disagree" links to simpler "Enter / Exit" links. It may be hard to believe but plenty of surfers are stupid enough not to realise that "I Agree" is where they click to continue. Also some will see "I Agree" as you trying to force thwem to agree with something and not click because of it. Remember, the term "average intelegence" means "the level of intelegence that 50% of people are below".

2004-06-02, 12:10 PM	#18
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	ecchi, my webmaster kicked himself hard for that stupid one. He agrees with you totally and the buttons will be changed shortly. Thanks Dani(you guys are awesome)

2004-06-02, 12:44 PM	#19
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I am sorry but i hate the tour the index page doesnt show your face and neither does the next page really but you have enough pics to submit that around and get it linked even though its a paysite, it fits the rules

2004-06-02, 01:09 PM	#20
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	Tommy I agree 100% I do not like the index page pic and I was talking about that yesterday. It is going to be changed. I am going to ask my webmaster to change it to one that seems to be popular according to comments I have received. It is the large page picture in gallery 3 me looking back on the Harley. Dani(more great suggestions.)

2004-06-14, 03:42 PM	#21
dani Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 16	site update We've improved the look of the site as well as redesigned the navigation system. With all the things Dani wants in there, it was important to do the overhaul now as opposed to later. Pop on over and take a peek. Let us know what you think as your honest constructive critique is definitely appreciated. We've taken some of the suggestions and applied them to the site. A thank you to all who took the time to respond! Some of you may have to refresh your browsers to see the new look. Here's the link: http://www.eroticdaniella.com/indexb.html __________________ www.ra-media.org Ya can't suck and blow at the same time! The above is from my webmaster.... Now thats a great look to the site.. There will be some more changes coming and it is good to see that I have a Webmaster who once every few weeks actually listens to me..(LMFAO). I will also have a lot more content being added and much of it will be video, yes you will get to see me doing something that I seem to have perfected over a number of years, I will leave your imagination to run away with that and I guarantee you will be correct!!!!! So gentleman and ladies, because I always welcome ladies, come on in a take a look and just wait; it will only continue to get better. Dani(how many licks does it take to get to the centre)