Non-us based hosting company?

kalle7 · 2005-06-01, 01:14 PM

Can anyone recomend any good non-us based hosting companies?

Thanks
Kalle

MMemmer · 2005-06-01, 02:13 PM

Hi kalle7,

Just curious, I have responded to requests for hosting outside of the U.S. before but I was wondering what issue you were attempting to resolve by searching for a "non-us based hosting company"?

We own facilities around the world but our home office is in Chicago.

natalie · 2005-06-01, 05:04 PM

2257 issues at a guess? I have heard a few people wanting non US because they think it will solve it. But I am not so sure it will... Particularly if you live in the US.

kalle7 · 2005-06-01, 06:04 PM

Yes, it is cause of the 2257 issues that makes me consider changing hosting company til one outside US. I dont live in the US so I guess that having a hosting company outside the US will be a pluss (But I will not say for sure).

Lemmy · 2005-06-01, 06:31 PM

If you're not an American citizen, if you live outside the US and host your sites with a non-US company I don't see how American authorities can touch you directly.

Sigurd · 2005-06-02, 10:47 AM

You are right

So here we go, these are hosters, who have a non-US solutions:
WebAir
Exmasters
RealityCheckNetwork
Rackspace

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-02, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemmy

If you're not an American citizen, if you live outside the US and host your sites with a non-US company I don't see how American authorities can touch you directly.

They can take your server which is a big pain!

-- art

Lemmy · 2005-06-02, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwilliams

They can take your server which is a big pain!

-- art

How can they take your server if it's not in the US?

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-02, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemmy

How can they take your server if it's not in the US?

Sorry, I miss read the post. I thought you were not a US resident but hosted in the US. Nevermind.

ArtWilliams · 2005-06-02, 10:49 AM

I use http://zenutech.com/ in New Brunswick, Canada.

-- art

kalle7 · 2005-06-02, 06:26 PM

I had a conversation with one European hosting company today and was recommended to keep my things in the US and try to comply with the new rules. This was as I was explained cause of laws of domain in addition to the 2257 law. They could always get hold of you - even if I was hosted in Hong Kong.

I dont know more about this than I am beeing told, but I am sure that we need to check into this some more. Cause after the the 2257 regs it says

"If primary producers in foreign countries decide to
comply with their home privacy laws and not provide materials to U.S.
entities, the regulation will chill the availability of materials and
speech to U.S. citizens. The Department declines to adopt this comment.
The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements
imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items
that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S.
market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies
equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of
commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced. Foreign
producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then
their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited.

So if you still want to market your sponsors towards the us marked you need to comply with the new law. But I guess having your stuff hosted in some other place than the US might be good just in case.

But be careful where your host have their servers located and find out about the local laws as mentioned here: http://www.klixxx.com/archive/goingdutch.shtml

Sigurd · 2005-06-02, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalle7

I had a conversation with one European hosting company today and was recommended to keep my things in the US and try to comply with the new rules. This was as I was explained cause of laws of domain in addition to the 2257 law. They could always get hold of you - even if I was hosted in Hong Kong.

I dont know more about this than I am beeing told, but I am sure that we need to check into this some more. Cause after the the 2257 regs it says

"If primary producers in foreign countries decide to
comply with their home privacy laws and not provide materials to U.S.
entities, the regulation will chill the availability of materials and
speech to U.S. citizens. The Department declines to adopt this comment.
The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements
imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items
that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S.
market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies
equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of
commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced. Foreign
producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then
their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited.

So if you still want to market your sponsors towards the us marked you need to comply with the new law. But I guess having your stuff hosted in some other place than the US might be good just in case.

But be careful where your host have their servers located and find out about the local laws as mentioned here: http://www.klixxx.com/archive/goingdutch.shtml

Bullshit. If my hosting is out of USA, that US visitors at my sites are NOT US market!!!
It's the same if US guy goes to Neatherlands and buy there drugs. It's legally in that country, so it's legal to sold drugs in Neatherlands to US people. Here we see the same, if my company isn't US-company and my sites are at non-US hosting it's not a US market and everything is legal.

kalle7 · 2005-06-02, 06:54 PM

You are probably right Sigurd, but as mentioned this was what I was told by a European hosting company. Gotta check into all aspects of it before doing any changes |cool|

HarryM · 2005-06-03, 02:09 AM

Last time I checked, America didn't own the internet..
I really can't see any benifit for myself with hosting in the states.
But I wonder is it possible to register domains outside the us?
There dosn't seem to be much point in hosting offshore with us domains.

Sigurd · 2005-06-03, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalle7

You are probably right Sigurd, but as mentioned this was what I was told by a European hosting company. Gotta check into all aspects of it before doing any changes |cool|

It's a right position, kalle7

Cibi · 2005-06-03, 03:23 AM

http://www.exmasters.com/

vice-videos · 2005-06-05, 12:23 AM

What kind of a sick bastered goes around and inspects porno on peoples computer for a living. My god , cant my tax dollars be spend on something more important.....
I use a company in Brazil called LocaWeb. Hell, not many people speak portuguese. But I comply to having AIDS tests and ID's on all actors and actresses I use in my movies. Do not antaginise the Empire of America and I wont get squashed. I hope ...

chris01282 · 2005-06-28, 04:45 PM

Hang on a minute guys, and lets get serious...

How the hell can anything that is posted on the internet, regardless of where it is hosted, be aimed at a specific country market, especially if it is written in English???

chilihost · 2005-06-28, 08:39 PM

We offer servers in the Netherlands: http://www.chilihost.nl

And unlike the others mentioned, we are NOT a US-based hosting company. Our business is run from Australia, where privacy laws are extremely strict. So you don't have to worry about the local DOJ officials dropping into our offices with a court order demanding client info or your server be shut down. Think about it - would a US-based host risk their entire operation to defend a few offshore webmasters? Our laws dictate that we would have to refuse such a request.

cheers!
Luke

2005-06-01, 01:14 PM	#1
kalle7 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here and there... Posts: 182	Non-us based hosting company? Can anyone recomend any good non-us based hosting companies? Thanks Kalle

2005-06-01, 02:13 PM	#2
MMemmer The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 170	Hi kalle7, Just curious, I have responded to requests for hosting outside of the U.S. before but I was wondering what issue you were attempting to resolve by searching for a "non-us based hosting company"? We own facilities around the world but our home office is in Chicago. __________________ Mark@Caro.Net ICQ# 40467849, AIM MMemmer333

2005-06-01, 05:04 PM	#3
natalie Whoo! 9/10 the way to buddy plays in "The Christ from Oz"! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 921	2257 issues at a guess? I have heard a few people wanting non US because they think it will solve it. But I am not so sure it will... Particularly if you live in the US. __________________ No 2257 woes with Retroraunch Submit to my Punani And my Pink Pussy

2005-06-01, 06:31 PM	#5
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	If you're not an American citizen, if you live outside the US and host your sites with a non-US company I don't see how American authorities can touch you directly. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2005-06-02, 10:47 AM	#6
Sigurd Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Russia, Saint-Petersburg Posts: 197	You are right So here we go, these are hosters, who have a non-US solutions: WebAir Exmasters RealityCheckNetwork Rackspace __________________ Multiplayer online 3D sex-game with real dating! $80/1K uniques.

2005-06-01, 06:04 PM	#4
kalle7 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here and there... Posts: 182	Yes, it is cause of the 2257 issues that makes me consider changing hosting company til one outside US. I dont live in the US so I guess that having a hosting company outside the US will be a pluss (But I will not say for sure).

2005-06-02, 10:49 AM	#10
ArtWilliams You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,244	I use http://zenutech.com/ in New Brunswick, Canada. -- art

2005-06-02, 06:26 PM	#11
kalle7 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here and there... Posts: 182	I had a conversation with one European hosting company today and was recommended to keep my things in the US and try to comply with the new rules. This was as I was explained cause of laws of domain in addition to the 2257 law. They could always get hold of you - even if I was hosted in Hong Kong. I dont know more about this than I am beeing told, but I am sure that we need to check into this some more. Cause after the the 2257 regs it says "If primary producers in foreign countries decide to comply with their home privacy laws and not provide materials to U.S. entities, the regulation will chill the availability of materials and speech to U.S. citizens. The Department declines to adopt this comment. The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S. market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced. Foreign producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited. So if you still want to market your sponsors towards the us marked you need to comply with the new law. But I guess having your stuff hosted in some other place than the US might be good just in case. But be careful where your host have their servers located and find out about the local laws as mentioned here: http://www.klixxx.com/archive/goingdutch.shtml

2005-06-02, 06:54 PM	#13
kalle7 Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here and there... Posts: 182	You are probably right Sigurd, but as mentioned this was what I was told by a European hosting company. Gotta check into all aspects of it before doing any changes \|cool\|

2005-06-03, 02:09 AM	#14
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	Last time I checked, America didn't own the internet.. I really can't see any benifit for myself with hosting in the states. But I wonder is it possible to register domains outside the us? There dosn't seem to be much point in hosting offshore with us domains. __________________ Click here to make huge $$$

2005-06-03, 03:23 AM	#16
Cibi Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14	http://www.exmasters.com/

2005-06-05, 12:23 AM	#17
vice-videos Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	What kind of a sick bastered goes around and inspects porno on peoples computer for a living. My god , cant my tax dollars be spend on something more important..... I use a company in Brazil called LocaWeb. Hell, not many people speak portuguese. But I comply to having AIDS tests and ID's on all actors and actresses I use in my movies. Do not antaginise the Empire of America and I wont get squashed. I hope ...

2005-06-28, 04:45 PM	#18
chris01282 Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 25	Hang on a minute guys, and lets get serious... How the hell can anything that is posted on the internet, regardless of where it is hosted, be aimed at a specific country market, especially if it is written in English??? __________________ Traffic & Hardlink Trades

2005-06-28, 08:39 PM	#19
chilihost Look at 'em. Watchin' my TV. Sittin on my couch. You better not be in my ass groove! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 465	We offer servers in the Netherlands: http://www.chilihost.nl And unlike the others mentioned, we are NOT a US-based hosting company. Our business is run from Australia, where privacy laws are extremely strict. So you don't have to worry about the local DOJ officials dropping into our offices with a court order demanding client info or your server be shut down. Think about it - would a US-based host risk their entire operation to defend a few offshore webmasters? Our laws dictate that we would have to refuse such a request. cheers! Luke __________________ HunkMoney+BritishBucks+LatinoBucks=50+ gay sites!