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Old 2009-06-16, 10:52 PM   #1
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Angry Important Affiliate Manger !!! Warning to All pls Read :)

1 time research and learn, now I have found 1 very basic things, 1 that can make you very surprised, and very little help in the fraud, when time is of the Indo Forum, Indian Forum, Rus Forum ... I have 1 to gather data on the storage server and proxy sock and found that the most effective measures to combat frauders, after kĩ learn, the activities as follows Fraud , Registration Account 1 epassporte, check, wire, and then find 1 Adult Affiliate, registered and used sock proxy to be present through us, and I found 1 solution against the activities in which 1 is the reduced, deducing small, if they use proxy sock and through to the surface we also use proxy sock and to combat it. I tried using my credit card and try to order, according to my results and deducing this, when I use my credit card, I pay 1 to my site and register for VIP member, fill out the username and password email me the complete dc to fill my part creaditcard my number, so is through check Fraud part 1 of each option and paygate system
If you use maxmind, still have 1 number of households, and is a way through the surface, so after 2 years of research I have found 1 solution, connect to the data against Fraud, if frauders use proxy or sock that has blacklist Fraud against data in your frauders it can not continue to order more, this is time I introduced my sock with database and proxy update daily, can help you against many frauders
Please introduce database, is the kind of sock quality to frauders can surface through the DC, but the database are limited and will be updated continually, this database sock from those who play the nhge high, they use BOTNET sock to create, and your interests, many other hard to say that I, not knowing how to say
Thanks read

You will estimate the damage at least $ 200 if 1 frauders can surface through successfully, but those numbers too small to frauders, if the average middle frauders can attack the 1 site $ 500 1 month, then the 100 frauders you can do damage at least $ 5k, not calculated to reduce your prestige in the prevention frauders with other affiliate
I accidentally discovered frauders number 1 and try to calculate deecash.com system, I found that the average system will deecash losses at least $ 50k for 1 frauders
A typical example is the other bangbrosnetwork and hugetraffic and Increadollars, each network has been attacked frauders at least $ 200k to this time, so the Boss of this network has time to stagger and fix many bugs and anti frauders own way
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Old 2009-06-16, 11:11 PM   #3
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1 time research and learn, now I have found 1 very basic things, 1 that can make you very surprised, and very little help in the fraud, when time is of the Indo Forum, Indian Forum, Rus Forum ... I have 1 to gather data on the storage server and proxy sock and found that the most effective measures to combat frauders, after kĩ learn, the activities as follows Fraud , Registration Account 1 epassporte, check, wire, and then find 1 Adult Affiliate, registered and used sock proxy to be present through us, and I found 1 solution against the activities in which 1 is the reduced, deducing small, if they use proxy sock and through to the surface we also use proxy sock and to combat it. I tried using my credit card and try to order, according to my results and deducing this, when I use my credit card, I pay 1 to my site and register for VIP member, fill out the username and password email me the complete dc to fill my part creaditcard my number, so is through check Fraud part 1 of each option and paygate system
If you use maxmind, still have 1 number of households, and is a way through the surface, so after 2 years of research I have found 1 solution, connect to the data against Fraud, if frauders use proxy or sock that has blacklist Fraud against data in your frauders it can not continue to order more, this is time I introduced my sock with database and proxy update daily, can help you against many frauders
Please introduce database, is the kind of sock quality to frauders can surface through the DC, but the database are limited and will be updated continually, this database sock from those who play the nhge high, they use BOTNET sock to create, and your interests, many other hard to say that I, not knowing how to say
Thanks read

You will estimate the damage at least $ 200 if 1 frauders can surface through successfully, but those numbers too small to frauders, if the average middle frauders can attack the 1 site $ 500 1 month, then the 100 frauders you can do damage at least $ 5k, not calculated to reduce your prestige in the prevention frauders with other affiliate
I accidentally discovered frauders number 1 and try to calculate deecash.com system, I found that the average system will deecash losses at least $ 50k for 1 frauders
A typical example is the other bangbrosnetwork and hugetraffic and Increadollars, each network has been attacked frauders at least $ 200k to this time, so the Boss of this network has time to stagger and fix many bugs and anti frauders own way
50,000$ on 1 fraud guy at deecash huh? hmmm.. thats new to me
Heard you are in touch with one of our team members already

We'd be more than happy to listen

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Old 2009-06-16, 11:44 PM   #4
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50,000$ on 1 fraud guy at deecash huh? hmmm.. thats new to me
Heard you are in touch with one of our team members already

We'd be more than happy to listen

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Old 2009-06-16, 11:50 PM   #5
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50,000$ on 1 fraud guy at deecash huh? hmmm.. thats new to me
You Wrong
not 1 Fraud Guy,This is 1 Team Fraud
1 people with 3-5 account
100 peoples with ....
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Old 2009-06-17, 12:01 AM   #6
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I know you-Nick, I know you do not believe me, I also do not need to explain, just as the topic is fun: D
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Old 2009-06-17, 12:10 AM   #7
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What the heck? Is this English, or am I dense?

I'm sorry for being so green here.............. but, I don't understand the whole fraud thing? I know there are webmasters that don't accept galleries, links, etc, due to cheaters............... but, I don't really understand how the cheating happens? Or how the fraud happens? WHAT?

After reading this, I'm even more confused.

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Old 2009-06-17, 12:13 AM   #8
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I did not mean offense, Green sorry, and sorry Jackynlick, but I think only a manager is understand

fraud, there are many types
not only a fraud "galleries, links, etc, due to cheaters..."
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Old 2009-06-17, 04:54 AM   #9
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centrerelax is solid - thanks for the heads up - he helped us roll' up a network of fraud guys at http://launched.camspotcash.com

Thanks a lot for your time and effort.. for other programs.. please take your time and listen to the man...
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Old 2009-06-17, 05:14 AM   #10
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Old 2009-06-17, 06:52 AM   #13
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centrerelax is solid - thanks for the heads up - he helped us roll' up a network of fraud guys at http://launched.camspotcash.com
not in camspotcash Nick,in 18 Program Deecash,In other Affiliate exp: tonybucks,payoutmaster,dollars,increadible,hugetraffic,bangbrosonline,....

Thanks a lot for your time and effort.. for other programs.. please take your time and listen to the man...
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Can someone please translate the 1st post - or maybe give me the cliff notes?
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Old 2009-06-17, 09:54 AM   #15
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Can someone please translate the 1st post - or maybe give me the cliff notes?
this article I write, I keep the original
is the original Vietnamese, and my thanks to google translate to english for me
You need to note ???
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Old 2009-06-17, 10:33 AM   #16
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Can someone please translate the 1st post - or maybe give me the cliff notes?
Same here.
I get bits and pieces, but would really like a good english translation.
We just caught a few frauders the other day. Our damage was min though.
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What the heck? Is this English, or am I dense?

I'm sorry for being so green here.............. but, I don't understand the whole fraud thing? I know there are webmasters that don't accept galleries, links, etc, due to cheaters............... but, I don't really understand how the cheating happens? Or how the fraud happens? WHAT?

After reading this, I'm even more confused.

Jax

I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
This is the exact type of fraud we were seeing, But we only pay by check so it was easy to catch.
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Old 2009-06-17, 11:49 AM   #19
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Wow! How calculated! I would have never thought of something like that. How difficult is it to send these guys to jail?
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Old 2009-06-17, 11:58 AM   #20
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'DJs buy music on stolen cards'

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A group, including a number of DJs, have been accused of making hundreds of thousands of pounds by buying their own music online with stolen credit cards.


It's alleged the gang put their own music on Apple iTunes and Amazon and spent about £459,000 buying it back - claiming nearly £200,000 in royalties.


Nine people were arrested in London and the Midlands after a joint operation with a new E-crime unit and the FBI.
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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
This is nothing new though. Fraudsters have been scamming this way for years. Its part of the reason many programs don't pay via epassporte anymore or went invite.

Is there more to the original post then just that? I have to admit I am having a hard time deciphering it.
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Old 2009-06-17, 05:07 PM   #22
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Same here.
I get bits and pieces, but would really like a good english translation.
We just caught a few frauders the other day. Our damage was min though.
good jobs

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I am not positive but fraud for example he is talking about is fraud against affiliate programs.

So a webmaster signs up and uses stolen credit cards and epassporte as payout (or wire) but not check as it takes too long to receive and cash. With the stolen credit cards they sign up to PPS sites using their OWN affiliate code and make $500 (or whatever) and get the epassporte payout before the charge back or credit is processed by the credit card companies to the affiliate program itself.

That is one type of fraud run by webmasters.
Yes
have a lot frauders.cheat about stolen card or a lot ,....
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This is the exact type of fraud we were seeing, But we only pay by check so it was easy to catch.
Good Idea,But If you can know all frauders used stolencard ,
if you can learn methods of operation of frauders you can pay with different methods

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Wow! How calculated! I would have never thought of something like that. How difficult is it to send these guys to jail?
Jax
very difficult,only banned all frauders

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This is nothing new though. Fraudsters have been scamming this way for years. Its part of the reason many programs don't pay via epassporte anymore or went invite.


Is there more to the original post then just that? I have to admit I am having a hard time deciphering it.
Good Idea!
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Old 2009-06-17, 05:09 PM   #23
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Good Luck to all,hope useful to all

and if anyone want to help with my test account is fraudulent please contact us. Thanks! As introduced above, my database can prevent fraud by the best
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Old 2009-06-17, 07:59 PM   #24
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Hey Centrerelax,
What country are you from? Or what is your language that you speak?

Love,
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What country are you from? Or what is your language that you speak?

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Vietnamese and use google translate
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